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Wednesday, January 25, 2023

Appraisal Subcommittee Hearing on Appraisal Bias January 24, 2023, notes by Mary Cummins

Appraisal Subcommittee Public Hearing on Appraisal Bias, January 24, 2023, marcia fudge, mary cummins, asc, hud, real estate appraiser, pave taskforce, cfwb, jim park, race, racial bias, discrimination, black, brown, white, value, neighborhood, appraisal, valuation
Appraisal Subcommittee Public Hearing on Appraisal Bias, January 24, 2023, marcia fudge, mary cummins, asc, hud, real estate appraiser, pave taskforce, cfwb, jim park, race, racial bias, discrimination, black, brown, white, value, neighborhood, appraisal, valuation

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-us/events/appraisal-subcommittee-hearing-on-appraisal-bias/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8ADw9vOSc

Appraisal Subcommittee Hearing Meeting about Appraisal Bias in Residential Real Estate Market ASC notes, comments by Mary Cummins. Part of the meeting was on C-SPAN 2.

Time: 2:10:35

“Streamed live on Jan 24, 2023. Join the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council’s Appraisal Subcommittee (ASC) for a hearing about appraisal bias. Invited witnesses representing key stakeholder groups will share their views with the ASC during the hearing.”

Official information and files.

The Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council’s Appraisal Subcommittee (ASC) held a hearing about appraisal bias.

"This first-ever ASC hearing was led by Deputy Director Martinez and ASC Executive Director Jim Park. HUD Secretary Marcia L. Fudge, CFPB Director Rohit Chopra, and FHFA Director Sandra Thompson also participated in the hearing. Panel witnesses included:

Dr. Junia Howell, Visiting Assistant Professor of Sociology at the University of Illinois Chicago; Witness Testimony. It'd be better to read her testimony because she was extremely nervous, waving her arms around wildly, misspeaking and acting agitated. Most upsetting and more importantly she stated some totally false and ignorant things. She said the sales comparison approach was developed in the 1930s by whites in the US government to intentionally value white owned property higher than POC owned property. She doesn't even realize that most living in areas which were, are primarily POC especially back then were, are renters and not owners. There are also poor white areas in the US. How does she explain that? The sales comparison approach to value is the main method used to value all assets all over the world since the beginning of time. She said the government should basically give more money to her to do more deeply flawed "research." It appears that all speakers had to swear to the host of the meeting that they will only agree with the government's incorrect and preconceived ideas on the issue of the alleged "appraisal" and wealth gap. She's so ignorant she doesn't realize it's caused by the income gap and not appraisals. Lots of independent research out there to prove this. People buy homes they can afford. People who make less money but less expensive homes.

https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_appraisal-hearing_junia-howell-testimony_2023-01-24.pdf

Paul Austin and Tenisha Tate-Austin, homeowners from Marin, California; Witness Testimony 

https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_appraisal-hearing_paul-austin-and-tenisha-tate-austin-testimony_2023-01-24.pdf

Michael Fratantoni, Senior Vice President of Research and Technology and Chief Economist, the Mortgage Bankers Association; Witness Testimony 

https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_appraisal-hearing_michael-fratantoni-testimony_2023-01-24_Tw7XwtE.pdf

Craig Steinley, President, the Appraisal Institute; Witness Testimony 

https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_appraisal-hearing_craig-steinley-testimony_2023-01-24.pdf

More information about the Appraisal Subcommittee can be found here" 

MEETING START

Time: 6:29 Introduction by Zixta Martinez Chair of Board of ASC and CFPB. Jim Park will talk about ASC. We’ll hear from a panel of witnesses, a home owner, lender, appraiser and academic. She introduced Marcia Fudge head of HUD.

Time: 9:28 Honorable Marcia L Fudge of HUD and PAVE. I'm only going almost word for word what Fudge said because it's so important. Fudge makes her own personal bias very clear in what she said and the falsehoods she stated.

Fudge said “good morning” and got a mild response. She basically responded she didn’t like the mild response and again said “GOOD MORNING!” and everyone then responded with “GOOD MORNING!” It set the tone.

Since day one the Biden Harris administration has worked to root out bias in the appraisal system. The work is critical to advance racial equity. It’s important to me as secretary of HUD and as a black woman. I know first hand what it’s like to be told that your home is worth less than the house down the street because of the color of your skin. It’s heartbreaking to hear the stories of black and brown families who feel forced to remove family mementos and photos in hopes of receiving a fair and accurate valuation. I do not intend to do that!

Fair Housing Act of 1968 was to end housing segregation. Owning a home should provide a path to the American dream. Instead this country does not see us as equitable. June 1, 2021 100 years after Tulsa Race massacre Biden and Harris established PAVE task force a first of its kind initiative to root out racial discrimination in the home buying process so families of all backgrounds and neighborhoods can have a better chance at building generational wealth. Less than a year after PAVE was established we delivered an action plan which constitutes set of reforms to advance racial equity in the home appraisal process. We want to cultivate a well trained and diverse work force, to make sure technology doesn’t perpetuate bias. HUD made $28M available to fund testing, education, and outreach to communities on appraisal bias. Next week we will start a three part webinar on training for appraisers and housing professionals on how to identify bias and protect homes. We, (pointing to herself), know how to identify it as we see it every day. We are giving an avenue for FHA loan seekers, if they believe their appraisal was skewed by racial bias. You can make comments on our drafting table platform. Please, make comments. 

I’m going to say things not in my script because I live this every day. I live in a black community by choice, BY CHOICE! I want kids in my neighborhood to get same schools as properties next to me. You do that by property tax even though I think it’s unconstitutional, that we fund schools by property tax. I want same police, fire protection but you can’t do it if my house is valued at $50,000 less than the house next to me. Two doors from me there is a neighborhood that is all white. My house is bigger, my lot is bigger, my house is nicer (laughter). That (other) house is valued more than mine. This is not the America that we should be living in, in the year 2023. It is a travesty, outrageous and we must change it. I’m hopeful the ASC will do what is right for the American people.15:44.

Mary Cummins comments. Homes are not valued differently because of the color of the skin of the owner, borrower or occupants. It's a mathematical formula based on most recent similar sales in the same neighborhood. Appraisers don't know the color of skin of homeowners, borrowers, tenants, buyers, sellers. We don't see the borrower, buyer and definitely don't know who owns properties in the area we use as comparable sales. We don't look at census tracts. We don't know race or color. It's possible all the owners of the homes we used as comp sales for a property owned by a black person were white. That would mean Fudge's false narrative holds no water. 

Fudge states she wants home values and their property taxes to increase. Many poor people would be forced to sell their property and move if property taxes were increased to the level of newer more luxury expensive neighboring properties.They wouldn't even be able to sell their property for the higher non market value. That would be beyond unfair and cruel.

All real estate agents tell all home owners of every color to remove personal articles such as photos, collectibles and other items from their home.It shows the home bigger and better. Buyers don't want to see any homeowner in the home. They want to envision themselves in a blank slate of a home. It's not about race.

HUDs PAVE report was late. It was due in six months. Fudge acts like she finished it early in less than a year. Nope. Late. 

Appraisal appeal, reconsideration of values have ALWAYS been available to borrowers forever. They can appeal based on any reason. They have done this. This is not about bias. Research by AEI based on government loan documents proved there is no effect of race on home value. They used the government's own data to show this. AEI presented this to the government in the meeting about the PAVE task force. 

AVMs Automatic Valuation Methods do not consider race or color of homeowner or borrower. It's a math formula, technology computed by robots. No human is involved. The math formula is not based on race or color. It's based on location, size, age. It does not know condition, view, upgrades, amenities, true size, additions, lot type, location in neighborhood... AVMs value homes in poor condition higher than market. It values upgraded homes with views lower than market. AVMs aren't accurate. They are BIASED against everyone.

Fudge brought up her home value previously. She said her home is worth less BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK. I included it in a past article with address and attributes. I included a valuation of her home and of the NEW, LUXURY homes up, across the street from her. It's a private development of new luxury homes tucked away off the main street. I have no idea if the homeowners are all white. I doubt Fudge does either. Has she visited all of them personally? They're new so they're not in the census report. There is a reason why those homes are worth more. They're new, luxury, in a new development, with a clubhouse, off the main street... Not all homes of the same size in the same county are worth the same. An old run down home in South LA is worth less than a new one of the same size in Beverly Hills. If Fudge doesn't know this, she must resign because she's unqualified. I know she knows this and is just lying for effect. She's a politician working for politicians selling lies for votes, money and promotions.

The real reason why homes owned by whites are worth more than homes owned by black, brown people is the income gap. People who make more money have more money, more generational wealth and can buy and own more expensive homes. THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE! The government needs to fix the income gap then the wealth gap would solve itself. Men also make more than women. Blaming appraisers will never fix the real issue. The government can't fix the problem (if there even is one) until they admit the real cause of the problem. The first step Scientific Method to solving problems is to determine the actual problem.They clearly don't want to fix the real problem. That means the government doesn't really care about POC or the poor. They need to stop pretending like they do care when they clearly don't. You can yell at appraisers all the live long day and that won't solve the problem. 

I'll post notes from rest of the meeting letter. I will also be sending in a comment. I see some of the speakers are the Austins from California. I have covered their case since the beginning. In their linked statement they said they wanted the appraiser to use comps from the "white area" instead of their immediate neighborhood which they said is a "black area." Who are the racists here? 

There were five witnesses who basically read word for word their submitted statements linked above except AI Craig Steinley. He omitted a large portion of his written statement. I think he omitted it because he didn't want questions and to get under five minutes. While other speakers said we need to get rid of the "racist" government mandated sales comparison approach AI's statement said they are adamantly opposed to that. Their statement says the approach is based on valid and accurate economic principles which it is. That is how all assets in the world have been valued forever because it is based on supply and demand between buyer and seller. I'll do a short summary in a few minutes anyway. 

After that ASC members were allowed to ask ten minutes worth of questions each.

Email after the meeting

“Yesterday the Appraisal Subcommittee held its first ever Hearing on Appraisal Bias, hosted at Consumer Financial Protection Bureau headquarters in Washington D.C. 

The event opened with remarks by U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia L. Fudge. ASC’s Executive Director James Park spoke on the agency’s role in the appraisal regulatory landscape. 

Attendees, both in person and on the livestream, heard testimony from Dr. Junia Howell, University of Illinois-Chicago, homeowners Paul Austin and Tenisha-Tate Austin, Michael Fratantoni, Chief Economist, Senior Vice President, Research and Industry Technology, Mortgage Bankers Association, and Craig Steinley, President of the Appraisal Institute.

Now ASC wants to hear from you! You are encouraged to provide a comment on your perspective on or experience with appraisal bias; comments can be submitted to AppraisalBiasHearing@asc.gov until February 8, 2023.”

Four of the five witness speakers, Appraisal Subcommittee Public Hearing on Appraisal Bias, January 24, 2023, marcia fudge, mary cummins, asc, hud, real estate appraiser, pave taskforce, cfwb, jim park, race, racial bias, discrimination, black, brown, white, value, neighborhood, appraisal, valuation

Witness Dr Junia Howell, Appraisal Subcommittee Public Hearing on Appraisal Bias, January 24, 2023, marcia fudge, mary cummins, asc, hud, real estate appraiser, pave taskforce, cfwb, jim park, race, racial bias, discrimination, black, brown, white, value, neighborhood, appraisal, valuation

Tenisha Tate Austin, Paul Austin, Appraisal Subcommittee Public Hearing on Appraisal Bias, January 24, 2023, marcia fudge, mary cummins, asc, hud, real estate appraiser, pave taskforce, cfwb, jim park, race, racial bias, discrimination, black, brown, white, value, neighborhood, appraisal, valuation

ASC members, Appraisal Subcommittee Public Hearing on Appraisal Bias, January 24, 2023, marcia fudge, mary cummins, asc, hud, real estate appraiser, pave taskforce, cfwb, jim park, race, racial bias, discrimination, black, brown, white, value, neighborhood, appraisal, valuation



Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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Monday, January 9, 2023

Cancel Culture is Destroying Freedom of Speech on Important Issues by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

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If someone does something racist, they should be called out and educated. If a police officer murders a black man, they should be arrested and tried in a court of law. If someone just talks about these issues, they shouldn't be attacked, sued, have their business ruined, reputation destroyed, be harassed, threatened and assaulted. It doesn't make any sense. It harms freedom of speech, promotes racism and destroys any chance at public discourse of the issues.

Lizzo took a moment on a Sunday morning to share her concerns about cancel culture.“This may be a random time to say this but it’s on my heart.. cancel culture is appropriation,” Lizzo tweeted on Sunday (Jan. 8).“There was real outrage from truly marginalized people and now it’s become trendy, misused and misdirected,” she wrote. Lizzo continued: “I hope we can phase out of this & focus our outrage on the real problems.”

People are more upset about people talking about racist issues than the actual racism, race violence and hate crimes. People are more upset about someone stating facts about the false narrative of the racist appraiser than they are about real racism against blacks, the wealth gap or the fact that blacks, Latinos have little generational wealth. We appraisers can't even talk about the issue without being attacked, harassed on social media, getting false negative business reviews, death threats or threats of physical harm. Appraisers can't even comment on articles about the false narrative of the "racist appraiser" or we'll be viciously attacked. In fact some appraisers, AMCs and lenders have piled on to the false narrative in order to garner praise, seem woke, appear to be doing something about racism, get business, positive press and to not be attacked over the same issues. Some lenders have even used this issue to rip off POC by luring them in with promises of no racism only to charge them higher rates which is racist.

The real issue here is the income and related wealth gap between whites and POC. Because POC make less money, they have less money and wealth including generational wealth. Because they have less money and wealth, they buy and own less expensive homes in less expensive areas. The cause of the difference in value between white and black, brown owned homes is not the fault of the real estate appraiser. The data used in these misleading articles didn't even come from appraisers or appraisals but flawed automated valuation methods, robots, software programs by failed Zillow. The real problem is the income gap. Tell politicians and the government to fix the income gap. Assaulting real estate appraisers will never fix the problem.

Someone on Twitter stated in response to Lizzo's tweet, "Jessica Ballinger @BallingerMom Replying to @lizzo

Absolutely ❤️ There are very real issues that warrant outrage… I sometimes wonder if cancel culture stems from people feeling impotent against those bigger issues, so they go after simpler targets to feel better about themselves, like they did something."

I can understand the feeling of wanting to do something about racism but harming an innocent bystander is wrong. If someone sees racism against POC by white people, that doesn't give them the right to beat up and kill any white skinned person they see. That's just as racist as the racism they say they hate. It's also hypocritical.

In this situation by forcing real estate appraisers to shut up about the false "racist appraiser" narrative they are destroying freedom of speech and any public discourse on the issue. Instead the public only sees the misleading articles about specific cases in the media which are false. The media now writes these articles to get more outrage, traffic to sell more ads. One media will share the article by another media to make money off ads. 

I've written about some of those cases here. The homeowners weren't low balled due to the fact they were black and the appraiser was white. The homeowners weren't even low balled in the specific cases I reviewed here. The specific properties were appraised using the closest most similar sold comparables. They were all near the edges of more valuable but very different neighborhoods. They were worth less than homes in the next neighborhood for very good reasons. The homeowners just wanted their homes to be worth more and were maybe misled by Zillow, RedFn and other robot "Zestimates."

I really hope in 2023 appraisers will be allowed to write articles about these issues or at least comment on articles without being so viciously attacked that they have to delete their comments or only comment anonymously. That doesn't help anyone. It just perpetuates racism and hatred against white appraisers.


Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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Sunday, June 26, 2022

Wealth gap, income gap, home value gap, race, gender, marital status and Roe v Wade by Mary Cummins

Research has unequivocally shown there is an income and wealth gap between whites and blacks, Latinos. This is why homes owned by white people are worth more than homes owned by blacks, Latinos. People buy the homes they can afford and whites can afford to buy more expensive homes. Appraisers aren't appraising them differently. 

We also know there is a wealth, income gap among men and women, married verses single and especially single mothers with children under 18. Research has also shown that poor, black, Latino women were more likely to get abortions than white women. https://abc7.com/abortion-cdc-data-women/11815941/ 

The reversal of Roe v Wade forcing poor women especially of color to have babies is just going to make the wealth, income gap that much worse. It's also going to cost the states money in welfare, Section 8 housing, Medicare, EBT.... I don't think the GOP really thought about the repercussions of banning abortions. White Supremacists who tow the GOP line including anti-abortion will only have themselves to blame when POC actually do replace them via a higher birth rate. That's already happening but banning abortions will make it happen faster. 

Here's a great article to share with lots of pictures for those who don't care to read.

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23182150/abortion-rights-economic-justice

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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Sunday, March 13, 2022

Misleading False Race Related News from Bloomberg Analyzed by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser





Bloomberg writers Shawn Donnan @sdonnan , Ann Choi @annjychoi , Hannah Levitt @hannahlevitt and Christopher Cannon @homiedonttweet just published an article titled "Wells Fargo Rejected Half Its Black Applicants in Mortgage Refinancing Boom. Fewer than half of Black applicants were approved by the biggest bank mortgage lender." This is an incredibly misleading article full of misinterpreted information and some fake data. (editors, contributors Robert Friedman @rfriedman305 Alex Tribou @AlexTribou David Scheer @david_scheer Jason Grotto @jasongrotto)

In the first anecdote with no evidence it's stated Mauise Ricard III tried to refinance a home he didn't live in. Non owner occupied is considered investment property. It's a riskier loan so there is always a higher rate, lower loan to value ratio and stricter loan requirements. They didn't charge him a higher rate because he's black. There is plenty of racism in this world but not everything is racism. Why didn't the writers talk to a loan agent or appraiser to get some accurate information? They wanted more traffic to their article so they intentionally made these false sensationalist claims of racism and outlandish click bait title. 

Let's start with some real facts based on real independent data. Whites make and have more money than blacks, Latinos. "As of 2020, black families have a median household income of just over $41,000, whereas white families have a median household income of more than $70,000." Ref. 1. People who make more money have more money, assets and a higher FICO score Ref. 2. They are a lower credit risk when it comes to loans because they are more likely to be able to afford to pay back the loans. The higher the FICO, the more likely you are to get loan approval, see top chart. Chart below shows the correlation between income and FICO scores. National Association of Realtors NAR research shows the higher the income, the less likely you are to be denied a loan. This is a money issue and not a race issue. 



People buy homes they can afford. Someone who makes less money will buy a less expensive home in a less expensive area because that is what they can afford. That is the correlation. If you want blacks to have higher credit ratings and own more expensive homes, help them make more money. Don't yell at banks and home appraisers for not giving them loans and not appraising their homes over market value. You can complain all day and banks, appraisers can't do anything to fix it. In fact when banks were allowed by the government to be looser with loans and home values were skyrocketing, black homeowners got loans then lost their homes in the great recession because they couldn't afford the payments. You would do a disservice to someone with less money, less income if you gave them a loan they couldn't afford because they are more likely to be foreclosed upon and lose their entire investment and home. You'd be hurting and not helping them.

Here's an analogy maybe people can more easily understand. Blacks and Latinos own cars which are in general worth less money than cars owned white people because they make and have less money. Is Kelly Blue Book the reason why black, Latino owned cars are worth less than white owned cars? No, it's because they bought less expensive cars to begin with because that is what they could afford. Why aren't these people calling KBB racist and biased like they're calling banks and appraisers? It would make just as much sense. 

The article goes on to state that whites were able to refinance more often than blacks in the recent real estate run up with low interest rates. This goes back to income inequality. Even if black, Latino owned homes increased in value, the borrower is still making the same amount of money. While the loan to value ratio is important your home loan amount is based on your ability to repay the loan. Banks don't want a repeat of the great recession where they gave loans to people with equity but no ability to repay those loans. People blamed appraisers for that when it was actually caused by less government oversight and the resulting loose lending. The government and people forced banks to give risky loans to blacks, Latinos and people with low credit ratings. They're trying to do it again now. They do it every time there is a run up in home values. When they did it before the great recession many poorer people just took all the equity out of their homes and spent it on personal items. Then they lost their homes. 

"Wells Fargo, which declined to comment about individual customers, didn’t dispute Bloomberg’s statistical findings. It says it treats all potential borrowers the same, is more selective than other lenders, and an internal review of the bank’s 2020 refinancing decisions confirmed that “additional, legitimate, credit-related factors” were responsible for the differences." (FYI the bank can't comment about individual customers to the media or anyone except the borrower based on privacy, confidentiality law)

Banks have the right to set their lending requirements based on finances. They can discriminate based on finances. After Wells Fargo's tough times a while back you can bet they will tighten lending requirements which is their right. Do people want them giving fast and loose loans to anyone then have another banking crisis and have to bail them out? Remember this below?!

"Wells Fargo agreed in 2012 to pay more than $184 million to settle federal claims that it unfairly steered Black and Hispanic homeowners into subprime mortgages and charged them higher fees and interest rates. The bank didn’t admit to any wrongdoing and said at the time that it treated all customers fairly regardless of race." (FYI government doesn't have to prove bias in these cases. They just have to show one race was treated differently than another).

Previously Wells Fargo gave loans to riskier borrowers and they defaulted. This goes back to income inequality. The less money your make and have, the more likely you are to default on a loan. This time around Wells Fargo decided to reject riskier borrowers and people claim racism, bias and discrimination. No win situation here. Damned it you lend to riskier borrowers, damned if you don't. 

"Rohit Chopra, head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, said at a press conference in October announcing a new push by the Justice Department and regulators to combat so-called redlining by financial institutions. Among the issues he singled out was the role of mortgage underwriting algorithms that banks have long used, calling the disparities in lending outcomes a sign of “digital redlining, disguised through so-called neutral algorithms.”"

The algorithm is based on income, assets, debts, loan to value ratio, debt to income ratio... Research based on millions of loans over decades has shown a positive correlation between higher income, more assets to the ability to repay a loan. The opposite correlates with the inability to repay a loan. It's not redlining. Credit cards, auto loans, other loans are based on the same FICO scores but they're not tied to a property address. That is how people have made lending decisions for centuries all over the world. If a nonprofit or the government wants to loan money to high risk people, let them do it. Don't force private businesses to do it especially government insured banks.

"Kristy Fercho, who in August 2020 became the first Black woman to oversee Wells Fargo’s home-lending business and its more than 25,000 employees, says the bank’s processes are race-blind and that its lending decisions were “consistent across racial and ethnic groups.” Any racial disparity in outcomes for refinancing in 2020 was the result of variables Wells Fargo doesn’t control, she and other executives say, including credit scores, the appraised value of homes and broader inequities in the U.S. economy."

Finally the article speaks a truth, "A typical White family had eight times more wealth than a Black one, according to a triennial Fed survey last published in 2019." And now a huge misleading statement, "The refinancing gap gets at the ability of Black families to build on the wealth they have. Not being able to refinance a home “means that people have less resources to invest in their children, less resources to start businesses, less resources to renovate their homes, less resources to buy additional homes,” says Andre Perry, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution whose 2018 study found that the average Black home was valued at $48,000 less than its White equivalent. That differential amounts to $156 billion in missing Black wealth."

Andre Perry's "study" is a paper written by himself that was not published or peer reviewed Ref 3. It was based on inaccurate Zillow robot home estimates. No appraisers were involved. Perry intentionally chose two very different groups made up of homes in areas where 0-1% were black and homes in areas well over 50% were black. He didn't know if the homes were owned by white or black people because it's impossible to tell ownership. He compared the very different group values to each other. He did not adjust for location because it's impossible to adjust for location. Everyone knows the main indicators of home value are location, location, location. That misleading paper based on a very small intentionally misleading sample allegedly showed a difference of $48,000 in value between homes in majorly white verses black areas. 

We again go back to the real research which shows whites make more money than blacks, Latinos. Again, people buy homes they can afford. Someone with only $1,000 and a low credit score is not going to buy a $5,000,000 home in Beverly Hills no matter what race they are. They may buy a $75,000 home in Detroit with government financing. Is the bank or appraiser responsible for the differences in value between the $5,000,000 home and the $75,000 home? Not in reality but according to the article they are. 

The article stated that blacks were even less likely to refinance more recently. This goes back to income, credit rating. Even if their home appreciated in value their income, assets, credit rating stayed the same. Banks are more cautious after the great recession. They now make sure people can pay back the loan, make the loan payments based on their income.

Finally after reading the entire article they post a truth, "A 2021 study by Fed researchers given access to a privileged version of the same data used by Bloomberg that included applicants’ credit scores showed racial gaps can be largely attributed to those scores and the recommendations automated underwriting systems make to lenders." Credit scores are the main indicator of underwriting decisions! 

Of course the article went on to state that the credit score algorithm is biased and should be changed. It should include rent payments. Fine, let it include rent payments then do some research to see how that affects ability to repay home loans. Clearly it would only affect first time buyers as second time buyers don't pay rent.

The article then promotes the false biased appraiser myth. Then the article stated that banks raised the credit scores needed to get loans after the great recession which they state is not fair for black people. These people complained when black people lost their homes after the great recession and now they're complaining that they can't get a loose and easy loan? The only way some of these people will be happy is if people just gave them free money and houses. They might think that is fair. 

The authors end their article on the big lie, "He and his wife moved their young family to a bigger home in the more expensive, and predominantly White, Fulton County suburb of Sandy Springs in 2017 to be closer to better schools. (snip)” The move has also given him a rare perspective on the economics of segregation. His new home and those around it are valued far higher than those in the predominantly Black southwestern Fulton County suburb they left behind, where they still own the property they sought to refinance with Wells Fargo. But Ricard says he pays almost as much for the home insurance on his old home, which he now rents out, as his new one."

Ricard wanted to move out of his old predominantly black neighborhood into a predominantly white neighborhood per his own words. He was willing to pay more for a home in a different whiter location. He noted the better schools. Property taxes pay for most of a school's budget. Property taxes are based on home values. The higher the home values, the more money for schools and the better they are. There is also a correlation with lower crime. Lower crime, lower home insurance rates. Of course his insurance is lower in the more expensive neighborhood. This has nothing to do with segregation today. These are all common sense facts for anyone especially anyone in finance, banking and real estate. 

I believe these writers wrote this article knowing full well it's totally inaccurate. The real cause of the wealth gap between whites and blacks is the income gap. Fix the income gap and you will fix the wealth gap. White and black owned homes would eventually appraise the same if their incomes were the same. Stop blaming banks and appraisers for the income gap. Stop spreading this false and misleading misinformation. This misinformation has been weaponizing race to further divide our nation. Racism is a big enough problem as it is. We must do everything we can to stop racism but false and misleading articles like this just make it worse. They detract from the real issues of racism. 

*I sent this blog article to all of the writers, contributors and editors of this misleading article.

Article: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-wells-fargo-black-home-loan-refinancing/

Ref. 1. Szapiro, Aron (October 6, 2020). "Can Baby Bonds Shrink the Racial Wealth Gap?". Morningstar.com. Retrieved October 8, 2020.

Ref. 2. People who make more money, have more money and a higher FICO score.August 13, 2018. "Are Income and Credit Scores Highly Correlated?" Rachael Beer, Felicia Ionescu, and Geng Li1

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/are-income-and-credit-scores-highly-correlated-20180813.htm

Ref. 3. Andre Perry's paper is based on erroneous data and contains major statistical and analytical errors making the results meaningless.

https://mary--cummins.blogspot.com/2021/06/false-statement-by-president-joe-biden.html

Chart below shows loan approval rating for difference FICO scores for FHA loans. They have looser requirements. Still, the higher the FICO, the higher the chance of loan approval.



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Friday, November 12, 2021

Home Staging is to Increase Sales Price. It's Not About Racism. Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

Recently there have been a few media articles about black people who allegedly white washed their home i.e. removed all traces of blackness and received a higher appraisal value. These misleading articles have spread a false narrative about real estate agents, appraisers, sellers, buyers and the legitimate process of "home staging."

When someone lists their home with a real estate agent for sale the agent will tell them they must prepare and stage their home. Below is a brief summary of how a seller should stage their home in order to get the best price in the least amount of time from Smart Box Moving and Storage. As a real estate broker and appraiser for over 38 years I agree with this list.

"When you are preparing your home to put it on the market, experts suggest that a key part of home staging is removing personal items from the house. A strategically staged home typically sells faster and for more money so it’s important to take the necessary steps to properly stage your home. Removing certain items from the home will make your home feel larger, more organized, and will also help prospective buyers visualize themselves living in the home. Prospective buyers will take notice of every detail in your home so don’t turn them away by having the wrong items in your house. Consider removing the following items to ensure your home appeals to all buyers. 

Family Photos

While you may adore those large portraits of each of your kids, it’s best not to showcase those when you are staging your home. Buyers might be distracted by all of your family photos and it could make it harder for them to envision themselves living in your home. The idea is to help buyers visualize themselves in your home and this can be difficult with a display of family photos. 

Taste Specific Artwork and Accessories

Typically, when you decorate your home, you do so according to your own taste and personality. However, when staging a home, you don’t want your personality to stand out. For instance, you might be an avid hunter but not everyone will appreciate animal heads hanging on the wall. People might also be offended by certain artwork such as nudes, religious art, or political posters. It’s best to remove any taste specific decor and place a few neutral pieces around the home instead. 

Collections

Collections have a tendency to take over a space and make it appear cluttered. Buyers might miss the detailed crown molding if they are distracted by an overwhelming collection. A portable storage container is a great solution for storing your valuables and collections while you are selling your home. 

Awards and Certificates

While you might be proud of those diplomas, sports trophies, and school certificates, now is not the time to display them. Much like the family photos, it can be difficult for buyers to envision themselves in your home when they see so many of your personal items. Depersonalizing space is important because it will help buyers psychologically move in. 

Firearms

If you keep guns in your home, it might be a good idea to place them in storage while selling your home. Not all buyers will be comfortable with the idea of having firearms in the home and this can be a deterrent. 

Personal Items

As tiresome as this might seem, it’s important to erase the evidence that you actually live in your home any time you are showing it to a potential buyer. Remove personal items such as toothbrushes, medications, shampoo, glasses, dirty laundry baskets, dirty dishes and so on. You can hide many of these items in pretty baskets or boxes with lids. You can even hide things in plastic bins that will easily slide under the bed. 

Pets

They may be your best buddies but your furry friends don’t appeal to everyone. Pets are messy, dirty and stinky and not all buyers love them. Some people might be turned off by the fact that there are pets in the home so it’s important to find a place for them to go when you are showing your home. You should also remove any evidence of pets living in your home such as food bowls, cages, and toys.

Excess Furniture

Having too much furniture crammed into a room can make the space look smaller and this is definitely something you want to avoid when selling a home. Your goal should be to arrange furniture in a way that compliments the architectural features of the room while giving the illusion of spaciousness. You also want furniture that serves a purpose and showcases how the room could be used. For example, a desk and chair would show that the room could be used as an office while a bed and dresser would show that the room would make a nice bedroom. Avoid excess furniture or furniture that doesn’t belong. For example, you wouldn’t want a treadmill sitting in your bedroom. A portable storage unit is an ideal solution for storing your excess furniture while your home is on the market. "

The most important item to remove is personal items and photos. From blog article "Why You Should Remove Personal Items in Home Staging," "Removing personal items is perhaps the most important thing when it comes to home staging. Potential buyers don’t want to know about the family that lived on the property before. You risk distracting or alienating potential home buyers by leaving personal items on display (family photos, religious texts, favorite movies, even sports memorabilia). Imagine walking into someone else’s home for the first time. You’re likely on your best behavior and very hesitant about breaking something or going into a room you’re not supposed to be in. It’s not as comfortable as your own home because the space simply is not your home. That’s the opposite of what you want your buyers to feel. Ideally, when someone walks into a staged property, they can easily visualize the space as their home. Lining the walls with personal artifacts ruins that illusion. Nobody wants to feel like they’re intruding."

There are a few people with their own agenda who are promoting the false narrative that black people must white wash their home when it's being appraised because real estate appraisers are racists who appraise black people's home lower than market value. That is absolutely false. Real estate appraisal is based on the home characteristics and recent sales only. Appraisers don't care about the race of the owner, tenant or buyer. We generally never even meet them or know what color they are. We only care about the structure and what other similar homes have sold for. We use the same methodology as Automated Valuation Methods which are robots who don't see any people or the home.

Sometimes a homeowner will tell me "I'm sorry my home is messy today." I generally jokingly tell them, "it's fine. The bank wouldn't care if you had dead bodies hanging in here. They only care about the structure and the value." That is the absolute truth. The bank just wants to make money on the loan. They want a full market value appraisal so they can make money. The appraiser wants the same. If we were to come in below market value, we'd never be hired again and lose money. There is absolutely no incentive for an appraiser to come in low.  

A few media articles stated that a black family had their home appraised. The value was lower than they liked. They decided to white wash, stage their home and request a new appraisal. The second later appraisal came in higher. In this quickly appreciating market of course a later appraisal would be higher yet they attributed the rise in appraisal value to their white washing. They could have just changed the door mat and the same thing would have happened. With certain areas appreciating 30% in a year that turns out to 2.5% per month. With a $500,000 home the appreciation could be $25,000 in two months. The appreciation could be even higher if they first had it appraised it during a slower sales time of year then later reappraised during the peak sales times when there were more buyers, sales and higher sale prices. It would be even higher if it's an area that's being revitalized or as some say "gentrified." I've seen increases of 40-50% in a year in some of these gentrifying areas recently.

Racism is a huge problem in the US which we must try to eradicate. Racist things happen to people of color all the time. Since the murder of black George Floyd racism against black people has been a huge issue. That said not everything is due to racism. Many people's appraisals are coming in lower than expected because of the fast appreciation rate in the market. Closed and recorded sales lag 45-60 days behind contracts for sale. During that time home values appreciate. This is not the fault of the appraiser but the nature of the mandatory historical approach to home value. 

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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Tuesday, November 9, 2021

ASC Roundtable Event: Building a More Equitable Appraisal System - 2021 by Mary Cummins


"On November 9, 2021, the Appraisal Subcommittee (ASC) will convene its second ASC 2021 Roundtable: Building a More Equitable Appraisal System, to build upon the success of the first roundtable and address historical and contemporary factors that have contributed to the inequities challenging the appraisal system today. Please join us for the second event of this groundbreaking series, which will bring together leaders in government, finance, real estate, non-profits, and communities impacted by the appraisal system."

https://hopin.com/events/asc-2021-roundtable-building-a-more-equitable-appraisal-system

Schedule

November 09, 2021
10:30 AM - 01:00 PM

Main Session (Keynotes)

Please join us in the main session to hear keynote presentations and remarks from our featured speakers!

Speakers

Danny Wiley
Senior Director of Single-Family Valuation, Freddie Mac

Vivian Li
Quantitative Analytics Director, Freddie Mac

Erika Poethig
Special Assistant to the President for Housing and Urban Policy

Melody Taylor
Executive Director, Task Force on Property Appraisal and Valuation Equity

Congresswoman Maxine Waters
Chairwoman of the House Financial Services Committee

Jim Park ASC

11:30 AM - 12:30 PM

Sessions Area PAVE Listening Session

Speakers

Melody Taylor
Executive Director, Task Force on Property Appraisal and Valuation Equity

11:30 AM - 12:30 PM

Sessions Area Freddie Mac Report

Speakers

Vivian Li
Quantitative Analytics Director, Freddie Mac

Danny Wiley
Senior Director of Single-Family Valuation, Freddie Mac

Hosts

Jevin Hodge a politician running for office
Michael Akin a professional webinar organizer at Link Strategic Partners

My comments are in parenthesis "(  )." All of the speakers read their opening remarks. There was a lot of happy positive speak and pats on the back for other members of the task force and government. A few said that they aren't saying appraisers are racist or appraise in a racist manner. A few others said "it's been shown that appraisers are racist and appraise in a racist, biased manner against black people. There have been media articles." 

FreddieMac speakers went over the recent research on appraisal gap. Other speakers talked about the goals of the PAVE Task Force. There were quite a few appraisers attending asking good questions. Some of those questions were about some of the crazy ideas floated around about using comps from a different location, neighborhood than the subject. There were many comments about Practical Applications of Real Estate Appraisal PAREA and making it easier for trainees to become full appraisers. 

At the previous ASC Roundtable Event black Cy Richardson stated to white host Michael Akin "Pale, male and stale. That's what appraisers are." The general consensus is that "pale, male and stale" is racism, sexism and ageism. Akin replied that he wasn't "stale." It appears he didn't want to be name called again so he had black Arizona politician named Jevin Hodge who is running for office on an equality platform be the second host today. 

Jevin Hodge introduced the speakers to the main session in a very positive upbeat manner. 

Speaker: Jim Park of ASC: I'm a certified general appraiser. I've been with ASC since 2009. Bias is not due to racist appraisers. The definition of "implicit bias" per ADL (Anti Defamation League ) is assumptions, stereotypes we make towards others, positive or negative, that is stored in our unconscious (subconscious). 

We need to change the recruitment training model. We don't want to alienate people (appraisers) to solve this problem.  We must be careful not to blame dedicated professionals who perform this work day to day. 

Speaker: Danny Wiley of FreddieMac. I've been an appraiser for 40 years. We (at FreddieMac) looked at 12 million reports from 2015 to 2020 (during a time of appreciating values when there is more likely to be an appraisal gap) to see how often the appraisal value came in below the contract. We call this the appraisal gap. We compared appraisals of homes in census tracts with mainly white occupants against those with mainly blacks and Latinos. We have not reached any conclusion for cause of the gaps or correlation. Our research showed that further studies are warranted. (They only used purchases and not refinances. The borrowers for purchases are the buyers. Appraisers NEVER see or meet the buyers. It's impossible for us to be biased against the buyers. In fact their research showed there was no difference in the gaps if they only looked at race of the borrower. Gaps happen in quickly appreciating markets such as mainly minority areas which are revitalizing or as others say gentrifying. Appraisal values are based on sold comps which means the value could be two months behind the market from contract date to escrow closing to recording time.).

Speaker: Vivian Li also of FreddieMac: (It was difficult to understand her accent. Wiley and Li basically just talked about this research here) Media articles have shown appraiser, appraisal bias against blacks. (So much for not blaming appraisers) There were appraisal gaps from many appraisers (47%). We worked with BetterMortgage (a private for profit mortgage broker with a pro racism agenda and Jillian White. They worked with Andre Perry who released the early results of their study July 15, 2021. They also worked with Urban League. All of these people, groups publicly state and support the false narrative that appraisers are racist) to better understand them. 

Speaker Erika Poethig: The Federal Government had a role in discrimination. The government reinforced housing segregation with redlining and discrimination against people of color. Blacks, Latinos rely more heavily on their home for their wealth. The great recession caused POC to lose their homes. The black home ownership rate is the same as it was in 1968. 

The first goal of the current government is to stop foreclosures caused by the pandemic. The second goal is to expand access to credit more broadly. There will be more credit options for 2-4 units. We hope to root out discrimination in housing. 

Speaker Melody Taylor with HUD: Joe Biden started PAVE task force to deal with racial inequity. PAVE has four core objectives... (she read this list https://pave.hud.gov/about/objectives)
We will also focus on the ROV Reconsideration of Value and lack of diversity in the appraisal profession. Your voice matters. Thanks.

Congress person Maxine Waters: When black families leave portraits of their black family members up in their house they get a lower appraisal. They have to put up photos of white people to get a higher value and the appraisal jumps. These are not just anecdotes. The appraisal gap is real. People of color have been locked out of low rates and being able to buy homes due to appraisal bias. There is unequal values of homes in black areas. Discussions haven't solved the problems. 2019 had the lowest black home ownership rate ever. 76% of whites own a home. That's over 27% more than black or latino homeowners. The Build Back Better Act will increase the supply of housing. We must help more POC become homeowners. The big boy appraiser companies run the  show. Smaller appraisal businesses are locked out. We must break up the big boys. Thank you. (I like Maxine Waters. I'm near her district. Someone has filled her head with nonsense and false, misinterpreted information on this issue. She needs some education by someone who knows the issues. Who are the big boy appraisers?)

Breakout Sessions. I went to FreddieMac first then PAVE.

FreddieMac with Dan Wiley, Vivian Li.

Wiley: We only used purchases for our research because there is a "true north." 99% of the time the contract price will reflect the true value. (Assumption) We didn't use refinances for this reason.

We didn't consider any contracts with concession 3% or more. We got rid of other outliers such as a home having five stories, ten bedrooms...

Li: We excluded distress sales and non arms-length sales.

Wiley read my question which was "To Lee, Wyley: Did you compare the appraisal gap and price of the homes? Based on my experience I've seen more gaps in lower priced properties which correlates w/ Black, Latino area."

Li: Great question. We looked at it. We broke it into five brackets. We saw similar patterns overall. (but similar amounts, %? It would have been good for them to post that information even if it showed no effect. I appraise in these areas and others because I speak Spanish. I see more of a gap in these areas. It could be because these areas are being revitalized or as some say gentrified. Homes are appreciating quickly which always causes a gap like the common current appraisal gap. Others pushed out of more expensive areas into more minority areas also tend to over pay as do first time buyers desperate for homes in these areas. They looked at sales 2015-2020 which is during a time of faster appreciation when there is more likely to be a gap. They're also only looking at FreddieMac loans and not all loans. FreddieMac only buys conforming loans under a certain amount so this doesn't effect all loans.)

Wiley: We only considered appraisal reports. We didn't consider everything like whether the area had potable water or not.

Li: Potable water may affect valuation. We didn't look into it. I can look into it further. 
 
Wiley: We didn't check to see if the appraisals were accurate or not. (That would have been the better test). We just compared it to contract price. We know if the appraisal comes in low the contract gets renegotiated so we only looked at the appraisal and first contract not later contracts.

Joseph Mier: I've been an appraiser for 30 years. We all know location, location, location when it comes to value. I'm concerned the discussions could harm consumers and the profession if don't use local comps. If appraisers are using local comps, that is the proper data.

Wiley: You haven't heard that from us. We need to know what we can actually sell the property for. We're in the collateral business. We look at risk.
 
Mier: We must be careful to not leave data behind. There is a risk if you're not using certain comps. 

Wiley: Agreed. It gets dangerously close to crossing the line to advocacy. We are supposed to measure bias in the market. Bias is just preference. Buyers prefer some areas over others by being willing to pay more. The job of the appraiser is to be an objective observer of market bias and not driving it. We're not exploring that. 

Question: Why not use a comp in a white area to appraise a home in a black area instead of using a comp in the same black area?

Wiley: We are only concerned with what we can sell the property for today. We should use the most similar comp sales in the subject neighborhood.  There is no reason to go to another area. We are concerned with two things, the objective measurement of current value. The other is the long term effect of discriminatory policies from the past and how to rectify that. We support that. We don't believe the answer to that problem is to tweak the appraisal in some way. We need to affect long term change. We don't think the appraiser is the engineer of that process. 

Question: Why did you only look at, report about white, black and latino groups?

Li: Most data is for black, latinx groups. The gaps for these two groups stand out the most. (How would she know unless she looked at the other groups?) 

I moved to the PAVE breakout session

John Brenan of Clear Capital: PIREA, we support it. It must be approved by all states. We need diversity among appraisers. That is what we're trying to do, recruit more diverse appraisers.

Joseph Mier: Trainees can't do site inspections. Using trainees will bring more professionals into the profession. We should use local comps because value is based on location, location, location. We shouldn't use comps from outside of the area. 

Melody: If you want to send a comment, information, email pave@hud.gov

David Bunton: Appraisers must now take two hours on bias in the seven hour USPAP update. It would be good to know how many bias complaints there are and what are the results of investigations. (I sent in a FOIA request for the results of the two most well known recent complaints. I'll post them when I get them.)

Melody: We were given 180 days to formulate and write a response with an action plan for the PAVE task force. (Task force announced June 1, 2021. First meeting was August 5, 2021. December 1, 2021 the reply is due?)

Summary end of meeting.

Jim Park: This is not about how to get rid of appraisers but how to make appraisals more reliable, credit worthy and to diversify the profession. The bureau of labor statistics showed that appraisers are last (when it comes to diversity with 96% white).(The statistics are based on someone calling someone's house, asking one person about the professions of all the different people in the house and their different races. They're calling land lines. Not very reliable stats. Per AI 76% of appraisers are white. That's very close to the same percentage as real estate agents which is 75% and the general population overall which is 72%). We will do a third roundtable by ASC but not this year. It'll be first quarter next year. 

The video should be posted here. I still haven't found the video from the last meeting. I even emailed twice asking where it was and no reply.

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Some screen grabs from the session.












Some questions asked in the chat.

Fontana Pete

Congresswomen Watters mentioned getting rid of the "big boys" in the appraisal process! Can you elaborate on who she is referring to as the big boys? AMC's, banks, GSE's? Thanks kindly

Kennedy Chester

Question 3: What areas of regulation and policy could be improved to have an impact on eliminating bias in property valuations?

Kennedy Chester

Question 2: What role can private sector and the appraisal regulatory system play in advancing equity and diversity in the appraiser workforce?

Kennedy Chester

Question 1: How do lenders, regulatory agencies, GSE, HUD and VA policy affect the frequency and outcomes of ROV cases, and how might these regs and policies be improved? 

Sergio Johnson

In regards to the range option. Who would make the decision on the point of value being used for the lending decision in the range? (You probably still need a point of value to determine LTV etc)

Tanya Bates

Building relationships = A better understanding of the appraisal profession and in turn relevant ROV. Falls in line with what Bill is discussing.

Sergio Johnson

Bill, the problem there would be that in the lending world, many UW's report to folks who are part of the originations side. You'd have to revise the laws for that piece of it.

Lori Noble

With millions spent toward PARREA and alternatives while small businesses dedicated to mentorship are paying the price. The anti-competitive practices are prevalent and obvious in our regulations.

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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Friday, October 29, 2021

Sellers, Buyers set home values NOT Appraisers - by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

Sellers, Buyers set Property Values NOT Real Estate Appraisers, Mary Cummins, Los Angeles, California, real estate appraiser, real estate appraisal

UPDATE: I tweeted my article to Andre Perry. After he made a few ridiculous replies which only showed how much he doesn't know about appraisers and appraising he blocked me. Thank god I just swallowed my sip of iced tea or I would have spit it all over my computer monitor laughing :-D This guy can dish out bad statistics, bullshit and racism but can't take simple facts. 

FTR Andre Perry has stated many times that Appraisers are racist and biased. Here are some quotes. He stated this as a fact when it's not. From written testimony from U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Financial Services. "And we’ve witnessed viral news stories revealing how appraisers value Black and white homeowners differently." He's one of the main people spreading those false media articles about alleged bias which I researched and about which I wrote articles. 

"We don't want to lay the complete blame on the loss of home values on appraisers," said Perry. "They are certainly an important trigger but the same attitudes that appraisers have, so do [some] lenders, real estate agents and other people in various markets." Many more citations below.



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In the intro of his book Andre admits to having anger management issues with people with whom he disagrees. He said he "verbally assaults" people. He stated "My life "which has been beleaguered with unpredictable outbreaks of rage, largely stemming from reminders of past feelings of vulnerability and worthlessness. Minor disagreements with lovers, friends, colleagues, and strangers often turned into blowout arguments, for reasons unknown to them." The intro of his book also shows that his main focus in life seems to be that white people have done him and black people very wrong basically destroying everyone's lives, family and specifically their money. He stated his father died in prison and his mother abandoned him and his brothers with the local baby sitter. It does sound like a tough life that has affected his view of life and others. He stated his goal in life is to show that the main problem in this world is white people. Read the intro to his book and come to his own conclusion. The intro is online and free. 

ORIGINAL: Everyone knows the "fair market value (of a house) is the price at which the property would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither being under any compulsion to buy or to sell and both having reasonable knowledge of relevant facts." This is the basis of our world economy and free market society. Everyone agrees with this except hate monger Andre Perry who blames lower property values on "racist white appraisers." 

Andre Perry just wrote another crazy article about racism and real estate. Someone needs to contact the editor at the Brookings Institute about allowing flawed statistics, misleading research and the promotion of racist hate mongering in their name. 

Andre Perry has never let facts and data stand in the way between reality and the racist narrative he's created and actively promotes. He believes everyone in the US is responsible for home values in areas which are mainly "black," i.e. over 50% black per his own criteria, being lower than areas that are mainly "white," i.e. 1% or less "black." He actually only compared a few extremely different areas. This article proves that Perry's paper is based on extremely misleading data selection and biased comparisons which were then used to invent a false and misleading racist narrative. Note that his paper has never been peer reviewed or published in a journal article. It would never pass peer review. A "refereed (peer-reviewed) journal is reviewed by expert reviewers as a quality-control measure." I just checked Perry's resume and he has no peer reviewed articles or papers on his false racism in appraising theory.

In the article Andre Perry wrote "Lower home prices in Black neighborhoods reflect how much we value their residents." Nope. Home prices reflect the price agreed upon by a willing seller and buyer. It has nothing to do with the value of residents. The Appraiser also has nothing to do with the home price or value. A seller could sell his home for $100,000. If the buyer pays cash, there's no appraiser or appraisal. Seller and buyer set the price which is later publicly shared by Zillow, RedFn and MLS. Those sales set the market price for similar homes. Seller and buyer alone control that price and value

Now if the buyer wants a home loan, he'll probably need a real estate appraisal. The purpose of the appraisal is so the bank knows there's enough equity in the home to pay off the loan in case the borrower defaults on the loan. I could appraise that home for $10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 and the sale price stays the exact same at $100,000. The home still sells for $100,000. THE APPRAISER AND APPRAISAL DON'T AFFECT THE PRICE OR VALUE! This proves that Andre Perry does not understand the concepts of value, price, real estate, economic principles, basic math...or common sense. His "paper" includes almost every single major statistical error possible. Why does anyone believe this guy or that meaningless paper? It has less merit than an op-ed.

If Perry wants to blame someone for lower home values in some black areas he needs to blame the buyers of those homes which are mainly black per his "research." He should tell those greedy (sarcasm) buyers to pay $1,000,000 for that $100,000 home if they "value their residents." "Don't be a cheap bastard! Pay the seller more than what that home is worth! Do it for the good of the community!" (sarcasm) You sell a few homes for $1,000,000, they're all worth $1,000,000, right? Sadly, no.

FTR I attended the 2019 meeting Perry mentioned in his article. That was the first time I encountered Andre Perry and his lack of real estate, economics or statistics knowledge. 

From Perry's article. Notice he speaks about himself in the third person. Who does that? He doesn't even know that the Appraisal Institute is just a private org that doesn't certify or regulate the appraisal profession. I added what is in parenthesis.

"In 2019, one of this blog’s authors (Andre Perry) testified in Congress along with representatives from the Appraisal Institute and the Appraisal Foundation, two organizations that help certify and regulate appraisal professionals. When Rep. Al Green of Texas asked the panel to raise our hand if we believe “discrimination plays a role in the devaluation of property in neighborhoods that are predominated with minorities,” I was the only one who raised a hand."

I decided to go find this video to refresh my memory as I was working while listening, watching the original hearing. Andre Perry is a liar. See the video below. The guy directly behind him also raised his hand so 2/26 people. He was not the only one. Perry also lied about the question. This is the real question, "Do you believe that invidious discrimination, invidious is harmful, (full definition: Treating a class of persons unequally in a manner that is malicious, hostile, or damaging; unfairly, unjustly discriminating) plays a role in the devaluation of property in neighborhoods that are predominated with minorities but more specifically black people? If you do believe this, raise your hand. If you think black people are being discriminated when their property is being appraised, would you kindly raise your hand." Andre Perry raised his hand. This shows he is specifically talking about appraisers appraising properties and not AVMs here. AVMs are not appraisals. This is why Appraisers are upset. He accused us of invidious discrimination besides bringing up and widely sharing anecdotal media articles about alleged discrimination by appraisers. 



All the real estate experts with many years of experience and multiple degrees in real estate did not and do not agree with Andre Perry. This shows that Perry does not know what he's talking about. I also would not have raised my hand. The property in question is not, was not devalued. There is no discrimination in property valuation because it's based on a math formula. Most Appraisers never see the buyer, seller or know their race. It's just an address to us. The robot appraisals don't see anyone or anything, not even the property. Andre Perry's paper is based on robot appraisals and prices agreed upon by sellers and buyers. Appraisers had nothing to do with the data he used. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist. It does. It's just not an influence in real estate appraisal especially robot real estate valuations like Zillow.

Perry states that homes in black areas are worth $48,000 less than in "similar" white areas. Then what explains the differences among the values in white areas? It can't be discrimination against black people because they're white. Same thing happens in brown areas. What explains the lower value of a white owned home in a black area? Again, the owner is white and not black. Will all the white and brown people with lower home valued be compensated by any new government initiatives or reparations for low valued homes? Perry has been talking about using his $48,000 figure as a measure of reparations for black people. What about the rest of us suffering from low priced homes? I don't even own a home. Will all people who don't own homes, even homeless people also be getting a check? 

In the article Perry talks about the Indiana and Florida media articles about alleged racism in real estate appraisals. Recently he said those were just media articles and we don't know if it was racism or not. He even said recently he's never said appraisers were racist and he doesn't feel they are. Now he's back to promoting the idea of racist appraisers again! This guy will say whatever the audience in front of him wants to hear. He doesn't even know his own truth. He's that insecure.

His recent article is about the "Brookings and Ashoka Collaborative Innovation Challenge." They're offering money which he will most likely reward to a like minded friend who promotes his racism. Stuart Yasgur the VP & Global Leadership Group Member represents Ashoka #stuartyasgur . The prize is supposed to go to the person who solves the problem of homes in specific black areas being worth less than homes in specific white areas. I may send in a solution to the problem. My solution is that the problem as defined by Andre Perry doesn't exist. He created it. I solved it. Poof, it's gone. Where's my check?

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Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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