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Thursday, June 1, 2023

Marina City Club has no Budget for Needed Repairs by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

Marina City Club, deferred maintenance, no reserve funds, Marina del Rey, Los Angeles, California, Mary Cummins, real estate appraiser, real estate appraisal, loan, mortgage, can't get a home loan, this is my photo of the project.
Marina City Club, deferred maintenance, no reserve funds, Marina del Rey, Los Angeles, California, Mary Cummins, real estate appraiser, real estate appraisal, loan, mortgage, can't get a home loan, this is my photo of the project. 

Ever since the Surfside condo collapse in Miami, Florida everyone is worried about the condition of older condos. Condos near the ocean deteriorate faster than condos away from the ocean because of the salt air, low lying areas, soil and possible water intrusion. One condo project which is mentioned frequently in regard to this issue in Los Angeles, California is the Marina City Club in Marina del Rey, California.

The Marina City Club Towers were first built around 1976 to 1978. They are composed of three main towers and a few other surrounding units which front the boat docks. There are about 600 units. They were converted to condos in 1986 because of rent control and other factors. These were good quality units with tennis courts, a gym, hair salon, restaurant, pools, rec rooms... They're located on Los Angeles County owned leased land fronting the boat docks. The land is filled land. 

The project is now about 50 years old. All condominium home owners associations HOAs must maintain proper reserve funds to repair and replace the components of the building over time. For example, if a water boiler lasts 30 years, the HOA must save 1/30th the cost of a new water boiler every year from HOA fees so they have enough money to replace it at the end of 30 years. The same goes with all major components of the building. 

After the Surfrider condo collapse the owners and tenants of the Marina City Club condos became worried that their building could collapse and they could die. They started talking about the deferred maintenance they've noticed in the project. This caused people to revisit many recent articles about the project's lack of reserve funds for needed repairs. Los Angeles County became involved because they own the land on which the project was built. Part of the land lease states the project must be maintained properly and in a safe manner. Condo owners pay a HOA fee and a land lease fee for each unit. The fees are about $1,000/month for HOA fees and $700/month for the land lease. There's an extra fee to use the other club facilities which can run $700/month. This is all before you pay the mortgage.

In order to buy a home you generally put 20% down and finance the rest through the bank. A bank will only finance a property with a 30 year mortgage if they think it will last another 30 years. A bank will only finance a condo if there are no major repairs needed and there are sufficient reserve funds, i.e. 70%+ to pay for all repairs projected. If a project only has about 8% or they need $50,000,000 to fund their reserves, this is where you have a problem with the project. This is especially so when remaining life on the major components is zero years. It's now deferred maintenance. Any sane bank after reviewing facts about the project would reject it. You'd have to pay cash for the property. Property value could go lower based on the needed repairs and reserve issues.

I am not sharing any private information about the property which I obtained through any appraisals I've ever done in the project. All of this is public knowledge or came from friends who live in the building. If you are thinking of buying a condo here, PLEASE, get a copy of the HOA budget which lists needed repairs and reserve amounts. They must give it to you. Read the "Reserve Study Executive Summary" made by the HOA Essex Marina City Club LP. 

Currently the condo owners can't and won't agree to a large special assessment. Most of these condo owners are older 75+. They're now on fixed incomes. They probably thought they wouldn't be around by the time the building needed the repairs. That time is unfortunately now. 

*Just for clarification I'm not saying I think the building will collapse. I am saying that it appears based on public documents to have deferred maintenance with insufficient reserve funds to make the repairs.

I've been a real estate appraiser since 1983 which is 40 years now. I've appraised the Marina City Club Towers many times since it was built 1970-1978 and later converted to condos. I've visited my friends there many times even when it was first apartments before they converted to condos. I've been in the building a few times within the last year. My friends who own units in the building gave me a copy of a more recent budget. Below are a few public articles and documents.

https://therealdeal.com/la/2022/02/24/marina-city-club-condo-towers-deemed-safe-for-now-due-for-big-repairs/

"Los Angeles County ordered the structural engineering study last summer after residents voiced concern about public safety at the 10-acre complex of 600 condominiums in three, 16-story towers and a three-story, 101-unit apartment building.

The Marina City Club includes swimming pools, tennis courts, boat slips, restaurants, a fitness center and offices on land owned by the county. Deferred maintenance at the aging complex was estimated last year to require between $80 million and $140 million in repairs.

The new engineering study found cracks in walls and cement, signs of water intrusion in parking garages, “spalling” and crumbling concrete, as well as water-damaged rooftop decks.

Cement fastenings to handrails along walkways and on private balconies also were deteriorated, creating a safety hazard, the report said.

But the report by Saiful Bouquet Structural Engineers of Pasadena found no danger of imminent collapse.

“No significant structural damage was observed,” the 14-page engineering report concluded. “It is our opinion that the majority of damages observed were a result of normal wear and tear of the structure and/or moisture/water intrusion in the building envelope.”

It recommended Marina City Club operator Essex Property Trust, a publicly traded apartment firm, make the needed repairs to the three 16-story condo towers, parking structures and apartments."

https://darik.news/florida/marina-del-rey-condo-towers-are-structurally-strong-but-in-need-of-repair-says-engineering-study-press-enterprise/524046.html

https://www.ocregister.com/2021/07/09/decay-and-disrepair-mar-life-at-aging-marina-del-rey-condo-towers/

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-01/after-florida-building-collapse-l-a-county-inspects-marina-del-rey-condo-tow

Public References but not complete list

Marina City Club - Tennis, spa, sauna, gym, restaurant, hair salon

https://www.marinacityclub.net/

Marina City Club condo docs- Ground lease, Bylaws, CC&Rs, Condo sublease,

http://www.marinacityclub.com/httpdocs/DLLinks.htm

Full legal description, APNs, plat maps, building plans, unit layouts. Subject has no specific APN.

http://www.marinacityclub.com/Documents/CondoPlan1987.pdf


Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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Tuesday, April 16, 2019

The Notre Dame Cathedral fire shows how building structure affects susceptibility to fires - Mary Cummins

Credit. New York Times. Mary Cummins real estate appraiser agent broker los angeles california. Notre Dame cathedral Paris France. fire suppression, fire rating, sprinklers, fire department, firefighter, fires, attic, oak, wood spire, transept, beams, towers
UPDATE: The church posted a pic of the roof damage. The roof and spire are completely gone. There are a few holes in the ceiling which allowed parts of the roof and spire to fall into the cathedral.


This drone footage is excellent. You got to give it to whoever put up that scaffolding. Even with all the water and the spire falling the scaffolding held.



André Finot, Notre-Dame's spokesman said, there were "smoke detectors everywhere" that were connected to the cathedral's safety HQ at the presbytery, where a firefighter is posted 24 hours a day.

This article is about Britain's most famous cathedral York Minster which was completed in England in 1360. It's the same style as Notre Dame. They had a fire in 1984 and had to restore the burned roof. They installed fireproof compartments into the roof to keep flames from spreading in the future.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britains-notre-dame-tells-fiery-tale-restored-glory-135847883.html

ORIGINAL: While the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris, France is a heartbreaking architectural and iconic loss it is also a monumental teaching moment for building structures that can survive fires. Vincent Dunn a fire consultant and former New York City fire Chief stated “These cathedrals and houses of worship are built to burn. If they weren’t houses of worship, they’d be condemned." That is exactly what happened with Notre Dame. First, some background on the fire.

The fire started in the attic under the 300 foot tall oak spire.  The attic is made up of long wooden trusses. Once these massive timber structures start to burn they can almost never be stopped. This is why in the United States we no longer build two story homes with tall horizontal wood members. History has shown that a fire started in the kitchen which is generally on the first floor quickly burns to the second floor where the bedrooms are located. Once the beams are on fire they are almost impossible to extinguish.

After Notre Dame's attic was on fire the roof and oak spire started burning. Eventually the spire fell sideways. By then the entire roof was aflame. Two thirds of the roof collapsed into the building creating holes in the stone ceiling of the cathedral. In the below pic you see the burned roof on the floor of the Cathedral.

Christophe Petit Tesson/Agence France-Presse
One difficulty fighting the Notre Dame fire is the location of Notre Dame. It is located on an island in the middle of the Seine river. The island can only be accessed by smaller bridges which can only be accessed by compact firefighting trucks.

Another difficulty was the height of the Cathedral. Originally it was built to be a fort-like structure to protect the interior. A fire department would need tall ladders and hoses with enough pressure to reach the roof which was 115 feet tall. The fire department did not have the proper equipment to effectively reach the roof.

All that said the fire department did an amazing job fighting this fire and eventually extinguishing it by morning. They were able to save many artifacts, sculptures and paintings. Most of the stained glass windows were also saved besides the two bell towers and a good portion of the interior of the Cathedral.

Going forward there are many things that can be done when they rebuild the structure to better protect it from risk of fire.

1. There are no longer long wood trees to rebuild the trusses. They should be built out of flame proof metal and other materials.

2. Fire breaks should be installed in the attic and in other parts of the cathedral. Fire breaks can stop fires from spreading or at least slow them down and limit the damage they can cause. This can include fire doors and breaks between the ceiling, attic, floors and roof.

3. There should be fire sprinklers on the top of the roof, under the roof and in the attic. This would have stopped the spread of the flames and flying burning embers. The sprinklers have water and fire retardant liquids.

4. The smoke, fire detectors need to be more sensitive. They also should immediately show where the smoke, fire has been detected in the building. Maybe there should be video camera in the attic and on the roof.

5. The Cathedral like most monuments should have its own fire department with firefighters, equipment, water supply and water hookup to the Seine river. For a roof fire there must be ladders and hoses that can reach the roof. They should be in place so they can instantly have hoses on the roof that would not also burn if the roof burns.

6. If the spire is rebuilt, it should be built out of fire proof metal. The sculptures should be reproduced out of fire proof material. The originals can be in a museum.

I hope other similarly built structures will learn from this travesty so they can better protect their structures. These are just a few suggestions from a real estate appraiser with over 35 years of experience.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/15/world/europe/paris-notre-dame-fire.html

Notre Dame is not owned by the Church. It is owned by the French Ministry of Culture. They haven't been able to afford the past renovations. The Archbishop of Paris and the Diocese of Paris created the Friends of Notre-Dame de Paris organisation. The Friends of Notre-Dame de Paris is a charity that urges people to donate money to go towards the cathedral’s upkeep.

Mary Cummins is a licensed real estate appraiser, expert witness and was a real estate agent, broker since 1983 in Los Angeles, California. Cummins attended Beverly Hills High School and the University of Southern California.

Mary Cummins of Animal Advocates is a wildlife rehabilitator licensed by the California Department of Fish and Game and the USDA. Mary Cummins is also a licensed real estate appraiser in Los Angeles, California.


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