Home Staging is to Increase Sales Price. It's Not About Racism. Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

Recently there have been a few media articles about black people who allegedly white washed their home i.e. removed all traces of blackness and received a higher appraisal value. These misleading articles have spread a false narrative about real estate agents, appraisers, sellers, buyers and the legitimate process of "home staging."

When someone lists their home with a real estate agent for sale the agent will tell them they must prepare and stage their home. Below is a brief summary of how a seller should stage their home in order to get the best price in the least amount of time from Smart Box Moving and Storage. As a real estate broker and appraiser for over 38 years I agree with this list.

"When you are preparing your home to put it on the market, experts suggest that a key part of home staging is removing personal items from the house. A strategically staged home typically sells faster and for more money so it’s important to take the necessary steps to properly stage your home. Removing certain items from the home will make your home feel larger, more organized, and will also help prospective buyers visualize themselves living in the home. Prospective buyers will take notice of every detail in your home so don’t turn them away by having the wrong items in your house. Consider removing the following items to ensure your home appeals to all buyers. 

Family Photos

While you may adore those large portraits of each of your kids, it’s best not to showcase those when you are staging your home. Buyers might be distracted by all of your family photos and it could make it harder for them to envision themselves living in your home. The idea is to help buyers visualize themselves in your home and this can be difficult with a display of family photos. 

Taste Specific Artwork and Accessories

Typically, when you decorate your home, you do so according to your own taste and personality. However, when staging a home, you don’t want your personality to stand out. For instance, you might be an avid hunter but not everyone will appreciate animal heads hanging on the wall. People might also be offended by certain artwork such as nudes, religious art, or political posters. It’s best to remove any taste specific decor and place a few neutral pieces around the home instead. 

Collections

Collections have a tendency to take over a space and make it appear cluttered. Buyers might miss the detailed crown molding if they are distracted by an overwhelming collection. A portable storage container is a great solution for storing your valuables and collections while you are selling your home. 

Awards and Certificates

While you might be proud of those diplomas, sports trophies, and school certificates, now is not the time to display them. Much like the family photos, it can be difficult for buyers to envision themselves in your home when they see so many of your personal items. Depersonalizing space is important because it will help buyers psychologically move in. 

Firearms

If you keep guns in your home, it might be a good idea to place them in storage while selling your home. Not all buyers will be comfortable with the idea of having firearms in the home and this can be a deterrent. 

Personal Items

As tiresome as this might seem, it’s important to erase the evidence that you actually live in your home any time you are showing it to a potential buyer. Remove personal items such as toothbrushes, medications, shampoo, glasses, dirty laundry baskets, dirty dishes and so on. You can hide many of these items in pretty baskets or boxes with lids. You can even hide things in plastic bins that will easily slide under the bed. 

Pets

They may be your best buddies but your furry friends don’t appeal to everyone. Pets are messy, dirty and stinky and not all buyers love them. Some people might be turned off by the fact that there are pets in the home so it’s important to find a place for them to go when you are showing your home. You should also remove any evidence of pets living in your home such as food bowls, cages, and toys.

Excess Furniture

Having too much furniture crammed into a room can make the space look smaller and this is definitely something you want to avoid when selling a home. Your goal should be to arrange furniture in a way that compliments the architectural features of the room while giving the illusion of spaciousness. You also want furniture that serves a purpose and showcases how the room could be used. For example, a desk and chair would show that the room could be used as an office while a bed and dresser would show that the room would make a nice bedroom. Avoid excess furniture or furniture that doesn’t belong. For example, you wouldn’t want a treadmill sitting in your bedroom. A portable storage unit is an ideal solution for storing your excess furniture while your home is on the market. "

The most important item to remove is personal items and photos. From blog article "Why You Should Remove Personal Items in Home Staging," "Removing personal items is perhaps the most important thing when it comes to home staging. Potential buyers don’t want to know about the family that lived on the property before. You risk distracting or alienating potential home buyers by leaving personal items on display (family photos, religious texts, favorite movies, even sports memorabilia). Imagine walking into someone else’s home for the first time. You’re likely on your best behavior and very hesitant about breaking something or going into a room you’re not supposed to be in. It’s not as comfortable as your own home because the space simply is not your home. That’s the opposite of what you want your buyers to feel. Ideally, when someone walks into a staged property, they can easily visualize the space as their home. Lining the walls with personal artifacts ruins that illusion. Nobody wants to feel like they’re intruding."

There are a few people with their own agenda who are promoting the false narrative that black people must white wash their home when it's being appraised because real estate appraisers are racists who appraise black people's home lower than market value. That is absolutely false. Real estate appraisal is based on the home characteristics and recent sales only. Appraisers don't care about the race of the owner, tenant or buyer. We generally never even meet them or know what color they are. We only care about the structure and what other similar homes have sold for. We use the same methodology as Automated Valuation Methods which are robots who don't see any people or the home.

Sometimes a homeowner will tell me "I'm sorry my home is messy today." I generally jokingly tell them, "it's fine. The bank wouldn't care if you had dead bodies hanging in here. They only care about the structure and the value." That is the absolute truth. The bank just wants to make money on the loan. They want a full market value appraisal so they can make money. The appraiser wants the same. If we were to come in below market value, we'd never be hired again and lose money. There is absolutely no incentive for an appraiser to come in low.  

A few media articles stated that a black family had their home appraised. The value was lower than they liked. They decided to white wash, stage their home and request a new appraisal. The second later appraisal came in higher. In this quickly appreciating market of course a later appraisal would be higher yet they attributed the rise in appraisal value to their white washing. They could have just changed the door mat and the same thing would have happened. With certain areas appreciating 30% in a year that turns out to 2.5% per month. With a $500,000 home the appreciation could be $25,000 in two months. The appreciation could be even higher if they first had it appraised it during a slower sales time of year then later reappraised during the peak sales times when there were more buyers, sales and higher sale prices. It would be even higher if it's an area that's being revitalized or as some say "gentrified." I've seen increases of 40-50% in a year in some of these gentrifying areas recently.

Racism is a huge problem in the US which we must try to eradicate. Racist things happen to people of color all the time. Since the murder of black George Floyd racism against black people has been a huge issue. That said not everything is due to racism. Many people's appraisals are coming in lower than expected because of the fast appreciation rate in the market. Closed and recorded sales lag 45-60 days behind contracts for sale. During that time home values appreciate. This is not the fault of the appraiser but the nature of the mandatory historical approach to home value. 

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.

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Appraisal Gap: What is Appraisal Gap and what causes it? by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

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What is "Appraisal Gap?" 

Appraisal gap is the difference between the agreed upon purchase price and the appraised value by the lender's appraiser. 

As an example you make an offer on a home for $100,000 with $5,000 5% down payment and a loan for $95,000 95%. The seller accepts it. You apply for a loan. The bank sends out their real estate appraiser to make sure there is enough equity in the home to pay off the loan in the event you can't make the payments and default. The real estate appraiser must use recent similar sold properties of a similar size with similar number of beds, baths and amenities such as view, pool, upgrades. 

The appraiser finds three very similar recent sales at $90,000, $89,000 and $91,000. There are no sales of similar homes that have recently sold for $100,000 though there are some offered for sale at $100,000. Sold comparables carry more weight than listed or pending sales. Sold comparables set the upper possible limit of value. The appraiser will probably value that home around $90,000. $90,000 is less than the $100,000 purchase price. The bank would probably only loan you a maximum of 95% of the appraised value if you have great credit or $85,500. This is about $10,000 less than you had originally planned. 

You will have to come up with a higher down payment or the seller will have to reduce the price. If it's a hot seller's market like today with multiple over list offers, the seller will not reduce the price. They will go with another offer if you can't perform. You can agree to pay the difference in cash. You would need to put down $10,000 more in cash in order to buy the home. 

You could also decide to go with a loan with a higher loan to value ratio. The higher the loan to value ratio, the more the loan will cost in terms of cost, fees and interest rate. You may also have to pay for mortgage insurance and pay part of your insurance and property taxes monthly with your monthly mortgage.

If there are higher pending sales that are near closing around $100,000, you could negotiate a contract extension and hope that a higher pending or listed comp sells and closes quickly at a higher price. Then you could request another appraisal which should be higher based on the recent similar higher sale. The seller may not agree to this unless you offer them a cash incentive.

What causes "Appraisal Gap?"

There are a few causes of appraisal gap. Most appraisal gaps happen in quickly appreciating markets like today November 2021. The faster and greater the appreciation rate, the more likely there will be a gap. The main issue is legally real estate appraisers must use closed verified sales. These closed sales set the upper limit of value. The bank, underwriter, Appraisal Management Company AMC will not allow an appraisal value higher than the highest closed comp. It's not up to the appraiser.

There is generally a lag of a month or two between the time someone makes an offer on a property, it's accepted, escrow is opened, the loan application is made, the appraiser appraises the property, the report is sent to the lender, the underwriter approves the loan (or not), escrow is finally closed and the deed is recorded in the local county recorder's office. "According to Ellie Mae, a software company that processes more than a third of U.S. mortgage applications, standard mortgages took an average of 47 days to close in 2020. VA loans took 51 days to close, and FHA loans took the longest to close — 52 days on average." 

During that time properties have appreciated in value from the contract price. This means the closed sales the appraiser used today in the appraisal are  based on contract prices that are actually one to two months behind the market. Some properties today are appreciating at 15-20% a year or about 1.25-1.6% per month.  With a $100,000 home that could be $1,660/month or $3,200. In this situation that doesn't explain the entire appraisal gap. Let's explore another reason for the appraisal gap.

Some markets like today are out of whack. There is not enough home inventory and many buyers making multiple offers over list for homes. Some people are paying more than market value for homes today. If you want to pay more for a home than it's worth, you can pay cash for it. If you want a loan, it's a different story. The lender is not willing to over lend on the property. They need to make sure they can sell the property for the loan value and all costs, fees if you don't make the payments. As it is the property could go down in value after you buy it and the lender could end up with a loan worth less than the home. In reality most lenders quickly sell the loans they make so they can get money to make new loans. Investors will only buy loans that meet certain criteria. One of those criteria is the loan to value ratio. Lenders will not make a loan with a very high to loan value ratio because they won't be able to sell it.

Below is a chart which shows that the appraisal gap increases as property values rise. The chart is from the article "Appraisal Gap Increases in 'Hot Markets'" from July 2021 (1). Per Corelogic, "Recently, we observed buyers paying prices above listing price and higher than the market data available to appraisers can support. This difference is known as “the appraisal gap,” and in studying it, we see several interesting correlations between home price appreciation, buyers paying more than listing price and buyers paying more than the appraised value." The faster the appreciation, the hotter the market, the lower the housing inventory, the more likely there will be an appraisal gap. (Click to see larger)

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If you look at the chart above, you can see that the appraised value is about two months behind the sales price. The appraised value is increasing at the same rate as the appraisal gap which shows the appraised value is based on sales.

In the chart above you see March 2020 when the first pandemic lockdowns started. Appreciation the same for March, April 2020. It dips before May because probably fewer were buying homes. May, June 2020 it starts to rise again. Real estate is seasonal. It generally peaks June, July when school is out and it's easier to move. It slows August, September as school is back in session. It dips around Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year. Then it ticks up in the spring a little. Because of the pandemic the seasonal cycles were off a little. You can still see the seasonal cycles in demand affecting the appreciation rate and appraisal gap. 

Appraisal gaps have existed as long as appraisals have existed. In every single appreciating and especially quickly appreciating market there have been appraisal gaps. In doing research for this article the first newspapers.com mention of appraisal gap was in Canada in 1947, "See Possibility of Larger Housing Loans With Appraisal and Cost Gap Narrowing," May 17, 1947, National Post, Toronto, Canada.

The Los Angeles Times had a very good article from March 12, 1998 titled "The Appraisal Gap. Rising Home Prices Have Outpaced 'Comp' Sales" pg 259. 

"Many people like pushing the limits and breaking new ground. Not real estate appraisers.  A cautious, methodical breed, many appraisers have found themselves in the uncomfortable and risky position of sizing up Southern California homes whose sales prices have ballooned way beyond any recent comparable sale. Pity the poor appraiser then who must prove to a skeptical lender that a house is worth its $225,000 price tag when the most recent and highest comparable sale, or "comp," was only $200,000."

"Getting a fix on current values is never easy. But it is particularly difficult when the real estate market starts to change, as it recently has in Southern California, where many neighborhoods have seen prices rise sharply after years of stagnation and decline. It's a time when appraisers often find themselves pitted against real estate agents and homeowners, who are eager to cash in on higher values." 

"Most lenders like to see an appraisal that's in line with at least three nearby comps that have been recorded with county officials within the last six months. But even the most recent comp may be several weeks out of date because of the lag between the time a sales price is agreed upon usually when escrow opens and when the completed transaction finally appears in county records. As a result, a fresh comp will fail to reflect current values, especially as prices are just beginning to take off."

Keys Properties stated in July 2021 in their article (2) "How to Bridge the Appraisal Gap in Today's Market," "in a rapidly appreciating market, it can be difficult for appraisals to keep pace with rising prices. Low appraisals are not common, but they are more likely to happen in a rapidly appreciating market, like the one we’re experiencing now. That’s because appraisers must use comparable sales (commonly referred to as comps) to determine a property’s value. These could include homes that went under contract weeks or even months ago. With home prices rising so quickly, today’s comps may be lagging behind the market’s current reality. Thus, the appraiser could be basing their assessment on stale data, resulting in a low valuation."

"The one weakness of our system is that everything is historical and it takes awhile for us to get that new data," said Joseph Baldino, president of the Los Angeles chapter of the National Assn. of Independent Fee Appraisers Real Estate Appraisers." 

19% of purchase transactions had a contract price above the appraisal valuation in 2021. In 2020 it was 7%, "Hot Housing Market Widens Appraisal Gaps," (3). The chance of having an appraisal gap is high today. Below is a chart from Corelogic from January 2020 to May 2021 showing the increasing appraisal gap. The chart below is the same as the one above which is for the same time period. 

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The Appraisal Gap Widens in Areas That Are More Quickly Appreciating

In areas with quickly appreciating markets the appraisal gap can be wider. Some areas are in the revitalization cycle of real estate or what some call "gentrification." Home prices are appreciating very quickly in areas in the early stages of gentrification (6). I've seen 30-40% appreciation in a year in some areas in California like Oakland, South Los Angeles, East Los Angeles. In fact Pamela Perry of FreddieMac who just released research September 2021 on appraisal gap stated July 15, 2021 in a webinar titled "Property Valuation Appraisal Bias and Black Homeownership" "A few white folk move in (to a black area) and suddenly value spikes." The spikes cause appraisal gaps. 

The main cause of revitalization is people being pushed out of nearby more expensive areas into less expensive areas (4). Generally these areas are in the first time buyer range which has a high demand causing an even larger appraisal gap. As newer residents with more money buy into these areas, investors invest in and improve the areas and property values increase. This also happens in second time home buyer price ranges. A good recent example is West Adams in Los Angeles, California. Lots of larger older homes that were in decline have been bought and refurbished. Flippers and others have been selling these homes in minority areas in the $700,000 to $1,000,000 range. 

Many of these areas have mainly minority residents because home prices and rents were lower and more affordable when the area was in decline. Research has shown that there is a correlation between minorities, lower income and lower resulting net worth (5). People with less money and income buy and rent homes in less expensive areas. This means there is a higher chance of having an appraisal gap in a mainly minority area that is appreciating. "The demand has driven up home prices in a region where rates of homeownership have historically been low due to redlining, and where the population, which is predominately black and Latino, earns about 60 cents to every $1 earned by the average LA County resident" (7).

Home prices have been appreciating since about 2010 after the great recession of 2008. If one is looking at appraisal gaps in mainly minority areas from 2015 to 2020 one would see a greater gap in these areas than the US overall. 

As home prices in general increase in value, home prices in early revitalizing areas increase at a much faster pace as investors are attracted to the area. This causes the appraisal gaps to be more common and wider than the overall rate.  Some minority homeowners in these areas or other people misinterpret the appraisal gaps as "appraiser bias" against minorities. Things could not be further from the truth. 

UPDATE 11/2021: FHFA released appreciation rates for the US. Look at the cities with the  highest appreciation rates. The ones in California are minority areas, i.e. Oakland, Anaheim, Riverside, Long Beach, Folsom, Stockton, Fresno, Sunnyvale, Chula Vista. In other states it's Tucson, AZ, Jacksonville, FL... 20% to 37% per year, 300% to 600% in five years. These are minority areas that are gentrifying/revitalizing as people are pushed out of more expensive areas. Notice this is where most of the appraisal gap media articles have originated. Owners claimed the difference in appraisal value was caused by racism and white washing. It was caused by appreciation.

https://www.fhfa.gov/AboutUs/Reports/ReportDocuments/2021Q3_HPI.pdf

Appraising real estate is a combination of math and science. Many have made valuation software or Automated Valuation Models (AVMs) such as Zillow, RedFn, Trulia which estimate property values based on the location, size, age, number of bedrooms/baths and recent sales alone. The software uses the sales in the areas to define a value for each bedroom, bath, lot size, building size... The software doesn't see the people or even the home yet it derives a value based on numbers, data and math. 

Appraisers base their appraisal on the same exact features with important added information. Appraisers actually inspect the property and can note the condition, upgrades, repairs needed, additions... The Appraiser sees the neighborhood, access to public transportation and supporting facilities. The appraiser uses regression analysis to define a value for adjustments in the number of bedrooms, baths, lot size ... just like the AVMs. For these reasons the Appraiser's valuation will be far more accurate than any AVM. 

Appraisal gaps will always exist based on the current appraisal model and federal regulations. If you are buying a home in a quickly appreciating market, talk to your agent about the possibility of an appraisal gap. You may want to include an appraisal or appraisal gap clause if you don't want to lose the deal. You should definitely consider backup plans. If you do end up with an appraisal gap, please, understand the cause of the gap and your options. Don't attack the appraiser and falsely accuse them of personal bias. Appraisers don't set values. We merely report values based on data, numbers and math. 

References

1. Corelogic - "Appraisal Gap Increases in 'Hot Markets'" July 2021
https://www.corelogic.com/intelligence/appraisal-gap-increases-in-hot-markets/

2. Key Properties - "How to Bridge The Appraisal Gap," July 2021
https://www.keysproperties.com/blog/how-to-bridge-the-appraisal-gap-in-todays-real-estate-market/

3. Hot Housing Market Widens Appraisal Gaps, 19% of purchase transactions had a contract price above the appraisal valuation in 2021.    
https://nationalmortgageprofessional.com/news/hot-housing-market-widens-appraisal-gaps

4. ENDOGENOUS GENTRIFICATION AND HOUSING PRICE DYNAMICS
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w16237/w16237.pdf

5. Disparities in Wealth by Race and Ethnicity in the 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances, September 2020.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/disparities-in-wealth-by-race-and-ethnicity-in-the-2019-survey-of-consumer-finances-20200928.htm

6. Housing appreciation patterns in low-income neighborhoods: Exploring gentrification in Chicago. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1051137717301547

7. In 10 years, home prices grew the most in these LA neighborhoods.
  https://la.curbed.com/2019/12/23/21031672/los-angeles-home-prices-highland-park

Los Angeles Times - Archives for older articles or use newspapers.com 
http://www.latimes.com 

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.

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ASC Roundtable Event: Building a More Equitable Appraisal System - 2021 by Mary Cummins

"On November 9, 2021, the Appraisal Subcommittee (ASC) will convene its second ASC 2021 Roundtable: Building a More Equitable Appraisal System, to build upon the success of the first roundtable and address historical and contemporary factors that have contributed to the inequities challenging the appraisal system today. Please join us for the second event of this groundbreaking series, which will bring together leaders in government, finance, real estate, non-profits, and communities impacted by the appraisal system."

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Schedule

November 09, 2021
10:30 AM - 01:00 PM

Main Session (Keynotes)

Please join us in the main session to hear keynote presentations and remarks from our featured speakers!

Speakers

Danny Wiley
Senior Director of Single-Family Valuation, Freddie Mac

Vivian Li
Quantitative Analytics Director, Freddie Mac

Erika Poethig
Special Assistant to the President for Housing and Urban Policy

Melody Taylor
Executive Director, Task Force on Property Appraisal and Valuation Equity

Congresswoman Maxine Waters
Chairwoman of the House Financial Services Committee

Jim Park ASC

11:30 AM - 12:30 PM

Sessions Area PAVE Listening Session

Speakers

Melody Taylor
Executive Director, Task Force on Property Appraisal and Valuation Equity

11:30 AM - 12:30 PM

Sessions Area Freddie Mac Report

Speakers

Vivian Li
Quantitative Analytics Director, Freddie Mac

Danny Wiley
Senior Director of Single-Family Valuation, Freddie Mac

Hosts

Jevin Hodge a politician running for office
Michael Akin a professional webinar organizer at Link Strategic Partners

My comments are in parenthesis "(  )." All of the speakers read their opening remarks. There was a lot of happy positive speak and pats on the back for other members of the task force and government. A few said that they aren't saying appraisers are racist or appraise in a racist manner. A few others said "it's been shown that appraisers are racist and appraise in a racist, biased manner against black people. There have been media articles." 

FreddieMac speakers went over the recent research on appraisal gap. Other speakers talked about the goals of the PAVE Task Force. There were quite a few appraisers attending asking good questions. Some of those questions were about some of the crazy ideas floated around about using comps from a different location, neighborhood than the subject. There were many comments about Practical Applications of Real Estate Appraisal PAREA and making it easier for trainees to become full appraisers. 

At the previous ASC Roundtable Event black Cy Richardson stated to white host Michael Akin "Pale, male and stale. That's what appraisers are." The general consensus is that "pale, male and stale" is racism, sexism and ageism. Akin replied that he wasn't "stale." It appears he didn't want to be name called again so he had black Arizona politician named Jevin Hodge who is running for office on an equality platform be the second host today. 

Jevin Hodge introduced the speakers to the main session in a very positive upbeat manner. 

Speaker: Jim Park of ASC: I'm a certified general appraiser. I've been with ASC since 2009. Bias is not due to racist appraisers. The definition of "implicit bias" per ADL (Anti Defamation League ) is assumptions, stereotypes we make towards others, positive or negative, that is stored in our unconscious (subconscious). 

We need to change the recruitment training model. We don't want to alienate people (appraisers) to solve this problem.  We must be careful not to blame dedicated professionals who perform this work day to day. 

Speaker: Danny Wiley of FreddieMac. I've been an appraiser for 40 years. We (at FreddieMac) looked at 12 million reports from 2015 to 2020 (during a time of appreciating values when there is more likely to be an appraisal gap) to see how often the appraisal value came in below the contract. We call this the appraisal gap. We compared appraisals of homes in census tracts with mainly white occupants against those with mainly blacks and Latinos. We have not reached any conclusion for cause of the gaps or correlation. Our research showed that further studies are warranted. (They only used purchases and not refinances. The borrowers for purchases are the buyers. Appraisers NEVER see or meet the buyers. It's impossible for us to be biased against the buyers. In fact their research showed there was no difference in the gaps if they only looked at race of the borrower. Gaps happen in quickly appreciating markets such as mainly minority areas which are revitalizing or as others say gentrifying. Appraisal values are based on sold comps which means the value could be two months behind the market from contract date to escrow closing to recording time.).

Speaker: Vivian Li also of FreddieMac: (It was difficult to understand her accent. Wiley and Li basically just talked about this research here) Media articles have shown appraiser, appraisal bias against blacks. (So much for not blaming appraisers) There were appraisal gaps from many appraisers (47%). We worked with BetterMortgage (a private for profit mortgage broker with a pro racism agenda and Jillian White. They worked with Andre Perry who released the early results of their study July 15, 2021. They also worked with Urban League. All of these people, groups publicly state and support the false narrative that appraisers are racist) to better understand them. 

Speaker Erika Poethig: The Federal Government had a role in discrimination. The government reinforced housing segregation with redlining and discrimination against people of color. Blacks, Latinos rely more heavily on their home for their wealth. The great recession caused POC to lose their homes. The black home ownership rate is the same as it was in 1968. 

The first goal of the current government is to stop foreclosures caused by the pandemic. The second goal is to expand access to credit more broadly. There will be more credit options for 2-4 units. We hope to root out discrimination in housing. 

Speaker Melody Taylor with HUD: Joe Biden started PAVE task force to deal with racial inequity. PAVE has four core objectives... (she read this list https://pave.hud.gov/about/objectives)

We will also focus on the ROV Reconsideration of Value and lack of diversity in the appraisal profession. Your voice matters. Thanks.

Congress person Maxine Waters: When black families leave portraits of their black family members up in their house they get a lower appraisal. They have to put up photos of white people to get a higher value and the appraisal jumps. These are not just anecdotes. The appraisal gap is real. People of color have been locked out of low rates and being able to buy homes due to appraisal bias. There is unequal values of homes in black areas. Discussions haven't solved the problems. 2019 had the lowest black home ownership rate ever. 76% of whites own a home. That's over 27% more than black or latino homeowners. The Build Back Better Act will increase the supply of housing. We must help more POC become homeowners. The big boy appraiser companies run the  show. Smaller appraisal businesses are locked out. We must break up the big boys. Thank you. (I like Maxine Waters. I'm near her district. Someone has filled her head with nonsense and false, misinterpreted information on this issue. She needs some education by someone who knows the issues. Who are the big boy appraisers?)

Breakout Sessions. I went to FreddieMac first then PAVE.

FreddieMac with Dan Wiley, Vivian Li.

Wiley: We only used purchases for our research because there is a "true north." 99% of the time the contract price will reflect the true value. (Assumption) We didn't use refinances for this reason.

We didn't consider any contracts with concession 3% or more. We got rid of other outliers such as a home having five stories, ten bedrooms...

Li: We excluded distress sales and non arms-length sales.

Wiley read my question which was "To Lee, Wyley: Did you compare the appraisal gap and price of the homes? Based on my experience I've seen more gaps in lower priced properties which correlates w/ Black, Latino area."

Li: Great question. We looked at it. We broke it into five brackets. We saw similar patterns overall. (but similar amounts, %? It would have been good for them to post that information even if it showed no effect. I appraise in these areas and others because I speak Spanish. I see more of a gap in these areas. It could be because these areas are being revitalized or as some say gentrified. Homes are appreciating quickly which always causes a gap like the common current appraisal gap. Others pushed out of more expensive areas into more minority areas also tend to over pay as do first time buyers desperate for homes in these areas. They looked at sales 2015-2020 which is during a time of faster appreciation when there is more likely to be a gap. They're also only looking at FreddieMac loans and not all loans. FreddieMac only buys conforming loans under a certain amount so this doesn't effect all loans.)

Wiley: We only considered appraisal reports. We didn't consider everything like whether the area had potable water or not.

Li: Potable water may affect valuation. We didn't look into it. I can look into it further. 

 

Wiley: We didn't check to see if the appraisals were accurate or not. (That would have been the better test). We just compared it to contract price. We know if the appraisal comes in low the contract gets renegotiated so we only looked at the appraisal and first contract not later contracts.

Joseph Mier: I've been an appraiser for 30 years. We all know location, location, location when it comes to value. I'm concerned the discussions could harm consumers and the profession if don't use local comps. If appraisers are using local comps, that is the proper data.

Wiley: You haven't heard that from us. We need to know what we can actually sell the property for. We're in the collateral business. We look at risk.

 

Mier: We must be careful to not leave data behind. There is a risk if you're not using certain comps. 

Wiley: Agreed. It gets dangerously close to crossing the line to advocacy. We are supposed to measure bias in the market. Bias is just preference. Buyers prefer some areas over others by being willing to pay more. The job of the appraiser is to be an objective observer of market bias and not driving it. We're not exploring that. 

Question: Why not use a comp in a white area to appraise a home in a black area instead of using a comp in the same black area?

Wiley: We are only concerned with what we can sell the property for today. We should use the most similar comp sales in the subject neighborhood.  There is no reason to go to another area. We are concerned with two things, the objective measurement of current value. The other is the long term effect of discriminatory policies from the past and how to rectify that. We support that. We don't believe the answer to that problem is to tweak the appraisal in some way. We need to affect long term change. We don't think the appraiser is the engineer of that process. 

Question: Why did you only look at, report about white, black and latino groups?

Li: Most data is for black, latinx groups. The gaps for these two groups stand out the most. (How would she know unless she looked at the other groups?) 

I moved to the PAVE breakout session

John Brenan of Clear Capital: PIREA, we support it. It must be approved by all states. We need diversity among appraisers. That is what we're trying to do, recruit more diverse appraisers.

Joseph Mier: Trainees can't do site inspections. Using trainees will bring more professionals into the profession. We should use local comps because value is based on location, location, location. We shouldn't use comps from outside of the area. 

Melody: If you want to send a comment, information, email pave@hud.gov

David Bunton: Appraisers must now take two hours on bias in the seven hour USPAP update. It would be good to know how many bias complaints there are and what are the results of investigations. (I sent in a FOIA request for the results of the two most well known recent complaints. I'll post them when I get them.)

Melody: We were given 180 days to formulate and write a response with an action plan for the PAVE task force. (Task force announced June 1, 2021. First meeting was August 5, 2021. December 1, 2021 the reply is due?)

Summary end of meeting.

Jim Park: This is not about how to get rid of appraisers but how to make appraisals more reliable, credit worthy and to diversify the profession. The bureau of labor statistics showed that appraisers are last (when it comes to diversity with 96% white).(The statistics are based on someone calling someone's house, asking one person about the professions of all the different people in the house and their different races. They're calling land lines. Not very reliable stats. Per AI 76% of appraisers are white. That's very close to the same percentage as real estate agents which is 75% and the general population overall which is 72%). We will do a third roundtable by ASC but not this year. It'll be first quarter next year. 

The video should be posted here. I still haven't found the video from the last meeting. I even emailed twice asking where it was and no reply.

https://app.hopin.com/events/asc-2021-roundtable-building-a-more-equitable-appraisal-system/replay

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Some screen grabs from the session.

Some questions asked in the chat.

Fontana Pete

Congresswomen Watters mentioned getting rid of the "big boys" in the appraisal process! Can you elaborate on who she is referring to as the big boys? AMC's, banks, GSE's? Thanks kindly

Kennedy Chester

Question 3: What areas of regulation and policy could be improved to have an impact on eliminating bias in property valuations?

Kennedy Chester

Question 2: What role can private sector and the appraisal regulatory system play in advancing equity and diversity in the appraiser workforce?

Kennedy Chester

Question 1: How do lenders, regulatory agencies, GSE, HUD and VA policy affect the frequency and outcomes of ROV cases, and how might these regs and policies be improved? 

Sergio Johnson

In regards to the range option. Who would make the decision on the point of value being used for the lending decision in the range? (You probably still need a point of value to determine LTV etc)

Tanya Bates

Building relationships = A better understanding of the appraisal profession and in turn relevant ROV. Falls in line with what Bill is discussing.

Sergio Johnson

Bill, the problem there would be that in the lending world, many UW's report to folks who are part of the originations side. You'd have to revise the laws for that piece of it.

Lori Noble

With millions spent toward PARREA and alternatives while small businesses dedicated to mentorship are paying the price. The anti-competitive practices are prevalent and obvious in our regulations.

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Why Real Estate Appraisers Blur Photos in Appraisals by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

"A former Green Beret and one-time congressional candidate arrested last month for his alleged participation in the Capitol riot was illegally stockpiling explosives prior to being jailed on charges related to the Jan. 6 pro-Trump siege, according to an FBI search warrant filed Friday in Washington, D.C. federal court. When federal agents searched 47-year-old Jeremy Brown’s Florida home in October, they reported finding a short-barrel rifle, a sawed-off shotgun, more than 8,000 rounds of ammunition, and two hand grenades. But it was a picture included in a sales listing for his house on Zillow that led to his latest troubles. In a photo from “what appears to be Brown’s office,” FBI agents spotted a whiteboard with columns labeled “Food,” “Clothing,” “Shelter,” “Currency,” “Communicate,” “Move,” and “Shoot,” the warrant states. In the “shoot” column, it continues, “there are numerous firearms listed and explosive devices such as ‘flash bangs.’” The entry on the whiteboard indicated that Brown had the flash bangs “on hand,” the filing says, adding that Brown “is not registered to possess explosive devices.” "

In this case a real estate agent or maybe just a photographer did not blur any photos or remove items in the listing of a home for sale on Zillow. This was not for an appraisal or loan. While real estate agents cannot discriminate I don't believe Zillow or the agent have a responsibility to blur out images of personal items in listing photos so others can't discriminate. I do know that real estate agents generally tell all of their clients to remove all items of a personal nature especially photos for the listing photos and showings if not until the home is sold. This is for staging purposes so the buyer can envision themselves in a clean and less cluttered home so the home will sell more quickly and for a higher price.  

Appraisers on the other hand have to blur out photos of all people and personal items. We blur out people in photos, people in paintings, any religious items, personal collections such as gun collections, yard signs, political signs and other items of a personal nature in the home. 

I would have blurred out the guns but probably not the list of items on the wall because I wouldn't have noticed it. I don't really look at personal items when I'm appraising as I'm concentrating on the structure. I only notice the photos when I'm writing the report and adding the photos. Then I intentionally look for anything personal so I can blur it. I would assume that someone would hide something they really, really don't want anyone to see in their home before they enter. I'm assuming the guy just didn't realize people would know who he was and put two and two together. 

The purpose of blurring images of all people, religious items ... is so no one can say that the lender's decision to loan or not to loan was based on discrimination based on race, color, sex, religion, national origin, marital status.... Appraisers are also not allowed to discriminate against the home owner, borrower, or state anything that might be considered discriminatory in the appraisal report. There is no law that states Appraisers have to remove or blur these items. It's the lender instructions to the Appraiser. Obviously we see the images and items and sometimes people in person so blurring them from photos won't remove them from our memory.

I found this regulation about discrimination in relation to lenders. The Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) prohibits discrimination in any aspect of a credit transaction. It's based on Fair Lending Laws and Regulations per the Fair Housing Act. The link below goes into more detail about fair lending and discrimination.

https://www.fdic.gov/resources/supervision-and-examinations/consumer-compliance-examination-manual/documents/4/iv-1-1.pdf

The reason for blurring the photos is because the lender does not want a discrimination complaint or lawsuit even a frivolous one. If the lender is a bank it's even more important. Banks have to comply with many complex regulations related to non-discrimination of borrowers. They must have so many branches in areas which are predominantly low income and of color if they want to operate a bank even if the branches lose money. One complaint even a frivolous could harm the bank's legal standing as a bank and it's reputation and business. 

The alleged January 6 rioter appears to be a not too bright criminal. I've found people who believe in conspiracy theories such as the "stolen" 2020 election, Pizzagate, JFK is still alive, are not the sharpest tools in the shed. They lack critical thinking and common sense which is a shame for everyone.

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Appraising Real Estate during Dia de los Muertos or Day of the Dead by Mary Cummins real estate appraiser

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Free class in cultural appreciation in real estate! Sorry, no C.E. credit ;-) Dia de los Muertos or Day or the Dead is generally celebrated October 31 to November 2. If you're appraising a Latino home, you may see altars or "ofrendas" honoring their loved ones who've passed. The altars could include the loves ones' favorite food, drink, photos, memorabilia, flowers, candles... There is no special greeting so no need to say "Feliz Dia de Muertos" because it's a remembrance day. If you want to acknowledge their altar, you can say "es una ofrenda hermosa" i.e. "it's a beautiful altar" or "tiene una familia hermosa" i.e. "you have a beautiful family." They would appreciate it in English or Spanish. If you really praise their altar, beware because they will probably sit you down and stuff you full of wonderful food ;-) 

Sometimes I enter a Latino home and see the ofrenda and someone will say "that's not mine. It's my grandfather's" when it's clearly their own ofrenda. As soon as I tell them in Spanish that it's lovely they're fine. Being Latino with Latino customs and speaking Spanish can get your discriminated against in the United States so many hide it. I can't tell you how many times I've been attacked just for speaking Spanish in public. Because I have light skin most don't know I'm Latino so I end up hearing so many racist things. That's why it's nice to show that you acknowledge and appreciate the customs. 

Here is a virtual ofrenda I made for my family members who were born in Mexico City. This is not an authentic ofrenda which is more involved and elaborate. #diadelosmuertos #dayofthedead #altar #ofrenda #marycummins #diademuertos #mexico #family #latino #mexican #realestateappraiser, #realestate #appraiser #appraisal #spanish 

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Sellers, Buyers set home values NOT Appraisers - by Mary Cummins Real Estate Appraiser

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UPDATE: I tweeted my article to Andre Perry. After he made a few ridiculous replies which only showed how much he doesn't know about appraisers and appraising he blocked me. Thank god I just swallowed my sip of iced tea or I would have spit it all over my computer monitor laughing :-D This guy can dish out bad statistics, bullshit and racism but can't take simple facts. 

FTR Andre Perry has stated many times that Appraisers are racist and biased. Here are some quotes. He stated this as a fact when it's not. From written testimony from U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Financial Services. "And we’ve witnessed viral news stories revealing how appraisers value Black and white homeowners differently." He's one of the main people spreading those false media articles about alleged bias which I researched and about which I wrote articles. 

"We don't want to lay the complete blame on the loss of home values on appraisers," said Perry. "They are certainly an important trigger but the same attitudes that appraisers have, so do [some] lenders, real estate agents and other people in various markets." Many more citations below.

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In the intro of his book Andre admits to having anger management issues with people with whom he disagrees. He said he "verbally assaults" people. He stated "My life "which has been beleaguered with unpredictable outbreaks of rage, largely stemming from reminders of past feelings of vulnerability and worthlessness. Minor disagreements with lovers, friends, colleagues, and strangers often turned into blowout arguments, for reasons unknown to them." The intro of his book also shows that his main focus in life seems to be that white people have done him and black people very wrong basically destroying everyone's lives, family and specifically their money. He stated his father died in prison and his mother abandoned him and his brothers with the local baby sitter. It does sound like a tough life that has affected his view of life and others. He stated his goal in life is to show that the main problem in this world is white people. Read the intro to his book and come to his own conclusion. The intro is online and free. 

ORIGINAL: Everyone knows the "fair market value (of a house) is the price at which the property would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither being under any compulsion to buy or to sell and both having reasonable knowledge of relevant facts." This is the basis of our world economy and free market society. Everyone agrees with this except hate monger Andre Perry who blames lower property values on "racist white appraisers." 

Andre Perry just wrote another crazy article about racism and real estate. Someone needs to contact the editor at the Brookings Institute about allowing flawed statistics, misleading research and the promotion of racist hate mongering in their name. 

Andre Perry has never let facts and data stand in the way between reality and the racist narrative he's created and actively promotes. He believes everyone in the US is responsible for home values in areas which are mainly "black," i.e. over 50% black per his own criteria, being lower than areas that are mainly "white," i.e. 1% or less "black." He actually only compared a few extremely different areas. This article proves that Perry's paper is based on extremely misleading data selection and biased comparisons which were then used to invent a false and misleading racist narrative. Note that his paper has never been peer reviewed or published in a journal article. It would never pass peer review. A "refereed (peer-reviewed) journal is reviewed by expert reviewers as a quality-control measure." I just checked Perry's resume and he has no peer reviewed articles or papers on his false racism in appraising theory.

In the article Andre Perry wrote "Lower home prices in Black neighborhoods reflect how much we value their residents." Nope. Home prices reflect the price agreed upon by a willing seller and buyer. It has nothing to do with the value of residents. The Appraiser also has nothing to do with the home price or value. A seller could sell his home for $100,000. If the buyer pays cash, there's no appraiser or appraisal. Seller and buyer set the price which is later publicly shared by Zillow, RedFn and MLS. Those sales set the market price for similar homes. Seller and buyer alone control that price and value

Now if the buyer wants a home loan, he'll probably need a real estate appraisal. The purpose of the appraisal is so the bank knows there's enough equity in the home to pay off the loan in case the borrower defaults on the loan. I could appraise that home for $10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 and the sale price stays the exact same at $100,000. The home still sells for $100,000. THE APPRAISER AND APPRAISAL DON'T AFFECT THE PRICE OR VALUE! This proves that Andre Perry does not understand the concepts of value, price, real estate, economic principles, basic math...or common sense. His "paper" includes almost every single major statistical error possible. Why does anyone believe this guy or that meaningless paper? It has less merit than an op-ed.

If Perry wants to blame someone for lower home values in some black areas he needs to blame the buyers of those homes which are mainly black per his "research." He should tell those greedy (sarcasm) buyers to pay $1,000,000 for that $100,000 home if they "value their residents." "Don't be a cheap bastard! Pay the seller more than what that home is worth! Do it for the good of the community!" (sarcasm) You sell a few homes for $1,000,000, they're all worth $1,000,000, right? Sadly, no.

FTR I attended the 2019 meeting Perry mentioned in his article. That was the first time I encountered Andre Perry and his lack of real estate, economics or statistics knowledge. 

From Perry's article. Notice he speaks about himself in the third person. Who does that? He doesn't even know that the Appraisal Institute is just a private org that doesn't certify or regulate the appraisal profession. I added what is in parenthesis.

"In 2019, one of this blog’s authors (Andre Perry) testified in Congress along with representatives from the Appraisal Institute and the Appraisal Foundation, two organizations that help certify and regulate appraisal professionals. When Rep. Al Green of Texas asked the panel to raise our hand if we believe “discrimination plays a role in the devaluation of property in neighborhoods that are predominated with minorities,” I was the only one who raised a hand."

I decided to go find this video to refresh my memory as I was working while listening, watching the original hearing. Andre Perry is a liar. See the video below. The guy directly behind him also raised his hand so 2/26 people. He was not the only one. Perry also lied about the question. This is the real question, "Do you believe that invidious discrimination, invidious is harmful, (full definition: Treating a class of persons unequally in a manner that is malicious, hostile, or damaging; unfairly, unjustly discriminating) plays a role in the devaluation of property in neighborhoods that are predominated with minorities but more specifically black people? If you do believe this, raise your hand. If you think black people are being discriminated when their property is being appraised, would you kindly raise your hand." Andre Perry raised his hand. This shows he is specifically talking about appraisers appraising properties and not AVMs here. AVMs are not appraisals. This is why Appraisers are upset. He accused us of invidious discrimination besides bringing up and widely sharing anecdotal media articles about alleged discrimination by appraisers. 

All the real estate experts with many years of experience and multiple degrees in real estate did not and do not agree with Andre Perry. This shows that Perry does not know what he's talking about. I also would not have raised my hand. The property in question is not, was not devalued. There is no discrimination in property valuation because it's based on a math formula. Most Appraisers never see the buyer, seller or know their race. It's just an address to us. The robot appraisals don't see anyone or anything, not even the property. Andre Perry's paper is based on robot appraisals and prices agreed upon by sellers and buyers. Appraisers had nothing to do with the data he used. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist. It does. It's just not an influence in real estate appraisal especially robot real estate valuations like Zillow.

Perry states that homes in black areas are worth $48,000 less than in "similar" white areas. Then what explains the differences among the values in white areas? It can't be discrimination against black people because they're white. Same thing happens in brown areas. What explains the lower value of a white owned home in a black area? Again, the owner is white and not black. Will all the white and brown people with lower home valued be compensated by any new government initiatives or reparations for low valued homes? Perry has been talking about using his $48,000 figure as a measure of reparations for black people. What about the rest of us suffering from low priced homes? I don't even own a home. Will all people who don't own homes, even homeless people also be getting a check? 

In the article Perry talks about the Indiana and Florida media articles about alleged racism in real estate appraisals. Recently he said those were just media articles and we don't know if it was racism or not. He even said recently he's never said appraisers were racist and he doesn't feel they are. Now he's back to promoting the idea of racist appraisers again! This guy will say whatever the audience in front of him wants to hear. He doesn't even know his own truth. He's that insecure.

His recent article is about the "Brookings and Ashoka Collaborative Innovation Challenge." They're offering money which he will most likely reward to a like minded friend who promotes his racism. Stuart Yasgur the VP & Global Leadership Group Member represents Ashoka #stuartyasgur . The prize is supposed to go to the person who solves the problem of homes in specific black areas being worth less than homes in specific white areas. I may send in a solution to the problem. My solution is that the problem as defined by Andre Perry doesn't exist. He created it. I solved it. Poof, it's gone. Where's my check?

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Fannie Mae states quality of appraisals by trainee and mentor are the same? by Mary Cummins real estate appraiser

HousingWire just reported about the October 2021 Mortgage Bankers Association Annual Convention held in San Diego, California this year. I'm not a subscriber to HousingWire so the image below about what was stated in their news item came from a friend. 

"At the Mortgage Brokers Association expo in San Diego (Lyle) Radke of Fannie Mae said that Fannie Mae has been drilling down into its trove of appraisal data. The mortgage giant expected to find a correlation between an appraiser's expertise and the quality of their report, and assumed that a trainee's work might not be as good as that of someone more veteran. Nope. 'What we found is that there is virtually no difference' Radke said. 'They score almost exactly the same in terms of collateral risk, and in terms of internal (quality control), trainees actually score a little better than non-trainee.' "

An appraiser trainee is a new appraiser who works under a mentor appraiser who has years of experience. The trainee does not do an appraisal by themselves. They only do appraisals with a mentor appraiser who instructs the trainee and is by their side every step of the way from the pulling of comps to the actual property inspection to the report writing. The mentor reviews every part of the appraisal process and the report. After the mentor makes any needed corrections, edits, changes the mentor signs the report along with the trainee. 

Of course an appraisal done by a trainee and a mentor will be as good if not better than one done by the mentor alone. The mentor is teaching, training the trainee. The mentor wants to make sure the appraisal and report is perfect. The trainee and mentor know that all of their appraisals will be thoroughly reviewed and scrutinized by the governing board so the trainee can get their license. It's part of the licensing process. The FHA also reviews all FHA appraisals especially ones with a trainee. 

HousingWire, the Mortgage Brokers Association and Lyle Radke clearly don't understand the appraiser trainee program. Appraiser trainees NEVER do an appraisal by themselves. They only do it with the mentor appraiser. It's against the law for a trainee to do any part of the appraisal by themselves. That's the purpose of the program. It's odd because everyone in the finance industry had a hand in creating the trainee program. It's no wonder so much misinformation about appraisals and appraisers is spread in the media today. 

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.

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