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Wednesday, October 2, 2024

Chicago Urban League, Chicago Association of Realtors, Preparing for An Appraisal, Comments by Mary Cummins, Real Estate Appraiser



I attended Chicago Urban League, Chicago Association of Realtors Zoom webinar today on Preparing for an Appraisal. Good questions and answers. Below is the summary. My notes, comments below that. I'll post link to video if, when they release it.

"Preparing for An Appraisal.On October 2nd from 7:00-9:00 PM, join the Chicago Urban League's House and Wealth Committee for part one of a three-part virtual series. During the event, you will gain valuable insights into the appraisal process and learn how to advocate for fair valuations.

Learn from top experts in the real estate field on how to prepare for an appraisal and advocate for your property’s value. Whether you’re a Realtor, Realist, or a homeowner, this virtual event is packed with valuable insights.

Moderated by the Chicago Association of Realtors President Elect and Chair of the Chicago Urban League’s Housing and Wealth Committee, Lutalo McGee, our esteemed panelists include, 

President Sanina Jones of the Dearborn Realtist Board (DRB), 

President Erika Villegas of the Chicago Association of Realtors (CAR) and 

Tiffany Jimenez of the National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals (NAHREP) Chicago

Tom Schurer of Real Valuation Services 

This 3 part series represents a joint effort of the CUL, CAR, DRB, NAHREP, NHS, RAINBOW PUSH AND NAACP- South Side to empower real estate professionals and consumers about the appraisal process and how best to advocate for home buyers and sellers to ensure they receive a fair valuation based on industry best practices." 

Mary Cummins notes and comments on the meeting.

Question: Can I advocate for my value, for what I think it's worth? 

Answer: Panelists said yes. Some said you can offer comps, contract. Appraiser said "Nobody knows a home better than the homeowner. It's a matter of pride." 

Question: Why do consumers think they can't talk to the appraiser?

The panelists said you can and should talk to the appraiser about your value and what you think it's worth.

I sent in this comment: "Borrower can give comps, contract, list of improvements ....but can't try to influence the value. "1090.5. (a) No person with an interest in a real estate transaction involving an appraisal shall improperly influence or attempt to improperly influence, through coercion, extortion, or bribery, the development, reporting, result, or review of a real estate appraisal sought in connection with a mortgage loan." 

My comment: It's a crime and you will be denied your loan if the appraiser feels you tried to influence their value. Don't say "I need $xxx,000 to get the loan," "the house is easily worth $xxx,000." Feel free to give list of similar homes of the same size, condition which have recently sold in the same area. Don't state a dollar value for fear appraiser may think you are trying to influence. 

Question: Can I ask appraiser if they know the area, are competent?

Answer: Yes, but be nice and polite.

Question: Should I communicate with the appraiser in writing or on the phone?

Answer: Put things in writing so it will be included in the work file. Send it to them before the inspection. (My comment. Be polite and factual. Don't try to influence the dollar value).

Roberto Interiano, Lender, then read my comment and others agreed.

Question: Can I order my own appraisal if it doesn't have to do with a loan?

Yes, if you just want to know the value. The bank has to order their own appraiser for their appraisal for a loan.

Question: What should I have ready for the appraisal?

If you are selling, make sure your house is in show ready condition. Have any documents ready for inspection such as the survey, list of improvements. 

Question: Should I remove photos from my home?

Answer: Erika Villegas: Yes, remove religious and political items. Remove personal photos because the listing photos could end up on the internet. Remove photos of people because there have been media articles which show some didn't get the "proper value" because of photos of some people.

My comment: All real estate agents tell all sellers to remove personal items, clutter and make sure home is clean and presentable. This is especially important for listing photos, showings. There are a lot of media articles out there about people white/black washing their homes to remove any trace that the owner may be black, Latino... Some articles say the value went up because of, after white/black washing. That is probably not the cause of the value change. It's a false narrative caused by the media, politicians and others. 

Lutalo McGee: What about removing personal photos?

Sanina Ellisa Jones: An appraisal is subjective. It's problematic and why appraisals come in lower in our (POC) economy, community. It's because of racism, redlining, discrimination from early 1900's. The maps said risk is equal to blacks. African Americans were marked red, hazardous. It's no longer legal but still subjectivity exists from that practice. Take down religious, political items. I shouldn't have to remove my face because the value could be lower. Homes are devalued based on who lives there. We shouldn't have to do it but we should do it for the value. Values shouldn't be based on photos. 

My comment: Appraisers value the home and not the occupants. Home appraisal is a math formula. AVMs use the same formula but appraisers have all the data needed to ascertain value. We generally don't even know race, color of owner, borrower or of the comp homes that sold, are listed. It's a false narrative. That said I agree that you should remove personal items, photos, religious, political items for the listing photos, showings. Buyers want to imagine themselves in the home and not you. They want a blank slate. Homes look bigger without clutter. There are many articles about this online. Appraisers blur all photos that include people, religious items, political items, things such as gun collections, "personal" items... Even if you don't remove your photos, items, we will blur them.

Her definition of redlining is also incorrect. 70% property in HOLC map area D or red were owned by white people. While blacks, Latinos ... lived there whites owned most of the property. Whites were the main ones who had to pay higher interest rates to get the loans. Race wasn't included in all maps. Race was one of many, many factors included in the maps. We use all those same factors today except race. The factors i.e. property age, condition, value, predicted depreciation, income of residents, location near hazardous sites, freeways...are still used today. If you removed race from those maps, they were still just as accurate for risk. Race had NOTHING TO DO with the value or risk. 1935 HOLC program brought lots of money to those areas. Before this there were no loans or they were small and super expensive. Most areas in D zones are now totally refurbished and many are affluent areas. The HOLC program money actually helped. There is a lot of research which proves this but everyone likes to repeat the false stories. I remember when I first heard about redlining around 1983. I also believed that false shit until I did some research and educated myself. Here's an article I wrote about redlining citing the research. 
https://mary--cummins.blogspot.com/2021/05/redlining-in-home-loan-financing-mary.html

Lutalo: Should people put an appraisal pkg together?

Sanina: The listing agent advocates for the home value. Have a CMA, floor plan, survey, size, neighborhood details, upgrades, remodel, energy features to show appraiser how listing agent determined the list price.

My comment: The listing agent should already have a property package. Appraisers are open to receiving data. A list of similar sold, listed comparables is good. List of improvements, floor plan if available, survey, energy features... A list of maintenance items is fine but appraisers assume properties are maintained. Maintaining your property doesn't give you extra value.

Appraiser Tom Schurer: Tell the appraiser if there are multiple offers. Let the appraiser know what's happening in the community, developments.

Lutalo McGee: What about new rehabs in area where there aren't any new rehabs sold. 

Schurer: You make time adjustments on closed sales, use pending sales.

Lutalo: What do appraisers look at when determining value? What should homeowners do to their homes to prepare?

Schurer: Paint it. It gives a good clean feel. Kitchen, baths drive home values, school district, neighborhood. Nice curb appeal. 

My comment: If your home desperately needs a paint job, do it. Just don't expect 100% return on investment. Appraisers look mainly at location, size, bed/bath count, kitchen/bath condition in that order. Don't add a new kitchen/bath for an appraisal. You won't get 100% return on investment in terms of value. It's good to do it anyway if most homes have renovated kitchens, baths and you can enjoy it while you live there.

Question: What if appraiser asks for Tidewater?

Answer: Schurer: It means the appraiser needs help. They can't get value needed. They ask agent for help. Reconsideration Of Value ROV process. The new program looks good. Should be done by end of October and we can talk about it.

My comment: Tidewater: If the VA appraiser believes that the actual home value will be lower than the listing price, they will invoke tidewater. This is simply a heads up that gives the listing agent 48 hours to support the listing price. The agent will then provide similar sold comparables which support the list or contract price. I've found most of the time someone enlists Tidewater, contract/list price was over market value. 

Question: How do we navigate AI.

Answer: Schurer: AI will change our world and real estate. RE is a people business. We laughed at early AVM like Zillow. It's real good these days. My future will be reconciling data sets, not giving opinion of value. I will just say why a dataset is wrong for the value of a home (how would he know if he didn't appraise it?) We will still need our smart human brains. Play along. Don't be afraid. 

My comment: AI, AVMs are only as good as the data they have. GIGO, Garbage In Garbage Out. AVMs only work with newer, median size, median priced homes in average to good C3 condition. They don't work on older custom homes in fair/vastly improved condition with no view/views on irregular lots... We will still need appraisers for those types of homes. 

CEO Urban League Karen Freeman Wilson: We need to know historical context, how the past affects the present. We need to know how to eliminate barriers to home ownership. 

My comment: Totally agree.

The next webinar in the series will be with appraiser Chris Posey. Posey will teach us how to  read an appraisal report and spot red flags. My coment: Chris Posey is very experienced and knowledgeable. He'll be giving great advice.

Other questions:

"Nina Huggar 05:21 PM  

As a homeowner who wants to sale the property to someone I know, is it customary to reach out to the appraiser to come apprise the house myself? (A realtor won’t be utilized for this sale) My thought is, this will provide an accurate number to the buyer. Thoughts?

Cecelia Marlow 05:24 PM  

When we talk about appeals, how do we delicately engage the appraiser such that we are not calling into question their competency, yet adding value to the subject property that may come in lower than expected?

Anonymous Attendee 05:25 PM  

Is it okay or acceptable for your real estate agent to recommend a praiser?"

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Wednesday, March 9, 2022

Some Lenders promoting false "racist appraiser" narrative to optimize profits via AVMs, by Mary Cummins real estate appraiser

mary cummins, real estate appraiser, los angeles, califoria, lender, amc, avm, hybrid appraisal, racism, bias, discrimination, bettermortgage, urban league, andre perry, house canary, zillow
mary cummins, real estate appraiser, los angeles, califoria, lender, amc, avm, hybrid appraisal, racism, bias, discrimination, bettermortgage, urban league, andre perry, house canary, zillow

Like most businesses lenders want to optimize their profits. One way to make more money besides charging more is to pay less in costs and fees. One way for the lender to do that is to pay the appraiser less or just get rid of them and use a free or very inexpensive Automated Valuation Method (AVM). 

I personally don't care if a lender or borrower wants to use an AVM. There is enough business out there for appraisers because not all appraisals are for loans and not all government insured loans allow AVMs. They generally don't allow them in higher risk situations such as high loan to value (LTV) ratio, cash out, lower credit score ... 

My only issue with the use of AVMs instead of a full inspection appraisal has to do with the borrower. The borrower could get a lower value, resulting smaller loan and pay more for that loan due to higher LTV ratio i.e. risk, if the property is better than average for the neighborhood. AVMs are biased against properties that are anything other than average in every respect.

AVMs assume average condition, location, view, quality...  (Ref 1). If you're buying a better than average home for the area, higher quality, fully remodeled, in a better location in the neighborhood with a great view, the value will come in lower than true market value with an AVM. If you're buying a home priced less than most in the area in fair condition with no view or upgrades, an AVM will give you a higher value and a higher loan amount. You could end up upside down with no equity if you accept a higher loan. 

My issue is with lenders and others who are using and promoting the false "racist white appraiser" narrative to market themselves and AVMs as less biased just to increase their profits. They are glomming onto misleading data and false media articles to use for their marketing purposes at the expense of the borrower and the reputation of appraisers. Yes, racist appraisers exist but not all valuations are based on racism and bias. Below are some quotes used by lenders and others to promote this false narrative. 

House Canary. "HouseCanary hopes its tech can help solve appraisal bias."

https://www.housingwire.com/articles/housecanary-hopes-its-tech-can-help-solve-appraisal-bias-can-it/

Their true agenda shines through in the article, "While a typical appraisal could cost $400 to $500 and take several weeks, HouseCanary says it can perform a “condition-informed evaluation” within one to four days, for $100." Who cares if it costs the lender less. The lender doesn't pass on these savings to the borrower. The lender will charge any fee they think they can get. I've had borrowers contact me and ask why their appraisal was $1,100. I only got paid $350. They also asked about the $300 charge for a review appraisal. There was no review appraisal. I've bought and sold properties. I've found plenty of junk fees that would have gone to the lender. Even if a lender tells you there are no points, appraisal fees, you are paying it in the rate. Nothing is free except maybe the AVM at least for the lender. 

An inaccuracy in the article, "There’s nothing about an appraiser that’s better than someone you’ve literally trained (to inspect, measure, take photos of a home) for a few days." 

Appraisers bring years of experience to the table. I've appraised over 20,000 properties and have taken over 1,350 hours of education. We can see major defects and other things which would negatively affect value. Someone with only a few days of training will miss a cracked foundation, water damage in the basement or attic, uneven floors, tilting walls, mold, unpermitted addition, additions not done to code, additions that don't meet basic health and safety code for the city, county, state; missing safety features, area which is not ANSI legal gross living area GLA, evidence of a meth house, manufactured house verses stick built, effect of nearby power station, industrial properties, within 500 feet of a freeway, flight path, a skim coated floor to cover uneven floors, evidence of asbestos... A licensed appraiser would probably call for inspection by a licensed expert for major issues if they saw it. This could save a buyer hundreds of thousands of dollars down the line if they read a full inspection appraisal report. There's no inspection report to read in an AVM. If you had a hybrid appraisal with a non-appraiser inspecting it, you don't get an inspection report that could tell you more about the true condition. The appraiser hasn't seen the property, comparables or exact neighborhood in a hybrid appraisal.

Appraisers can also see items which add to value such as degree of view (180 degree ocean view, peek-a-boo canyon/tree view, view of the side of an apartment building), specific location in a tract development (on a hill, cul-de-sac, busy corner, near industrial), quality of construction, specific types of very good materials... 

A typical appraisal generally doesn't take several weeks unless you're in some rural areas. This is another misnomer used to argue for cheaper AVMs. An AVM would still be faster unless you ordered a rush appraisal to be completed in 24-48 hours. A hybrid appraisal takes the same amount of time as a full appraisal. A wait of a few days for a full appraisal would be worth it to the buyer, borrower. 

BetterMortgage. Better Mortgage uses race to sell loans and promote themselves as "diverse." "Several studies have shown that people tend to subconsciously associate with their own race more positively, and 96.5% of all real estate appraisers are white. Between 2015 and 2020, appraisal gaps came up at a rate of 15.4% for Latino-majority neighborhoods, and 12.5% in areas with a majority of Black homeowners.

If an appraiser’s evaluation feels off, don’t be afraid to get a second appraisal. It also helps to work with companies that are committed to diversifying their team. Starting next month, Better will be hiring and training a pipeline of 120 in-house appraisers who are representative of the communities they serve."

The numbers above came from a Freddie Mac study that compared appraisal values to AVMs appraised values and the contract price. (It was Fannie Mae who compared to their AVMs). In some areas the appraisal values were lower than Freddie Mac's own AVMs and contracts and in other areas they were higher. The Freddie Mac study stated they don't know the cause of the differences. "First, our analysis has not yet determined the full root cause of the gap." Danny Wiley of Freddie Mac stated "We have not reached any conclusion for cause of the gaps or correlation." The gap could have many causes such as revitalizing areas and condition. AVMs assume average condition, average everything. Perhaps the homes appraised by appraisers over AVM values were in better condition than average, better than average location, better than average view, upgrades...

BetterMortgage never hired or trained those diverse appraisers. They instead soon after the press release fired 900 people then 3,000 more. It was all talk to drum up business and investors. 

https://better.com/content/what-you-should-know-about-home-appraisals/

Urban League. Urban League is not a lender but they have been promoting the same false narratives and the misleading paper because it supports their beliefs. Racism and bias exist but not all appraisers, appraisals are biased. "AVMs could correct for racial bias from appraisers evaluating homes and the conditions in majority-Black neighborhoods." "Automated valuation models, or AVMs, hold great promise for reducing the costs of and increasing the accuracy of home valuations. They allow financial institutions to estimate a home’s value with a reduced role for human opinion. By limiting the human element, estimating a home’s value should become less expensive and more accurate." "Many housing experts believed that widespread appraisal bias contributed to the housing crisis. In-person appraisals are susceptible to charges of racial discrimination and human bias."

Appraisal bias had nothing to do with the great recession. The great recession had to do with deregulation and a market bubble. Lenders offered no doc high risk loans to anyone and everyone. Some had low teaser rates which adjusted to high mortgage payments which people could not afford. After the bubble burst, values dumped and people let their homes go back to the bank. Appraisers get blamed for every financial crisis from the S&L crisis, great recession and now appraisal gaps. These issues have never been the fault of the appraiser. Appraisers don't make values. We merely report them as the messenger.  We are just the usual scapegoat. 

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/103429/how-automated-valuation-models-can-disproportionately-affect-majority-black-neighborhoods_1.pdf

One important issue here is the alleged research upon which the "racist appraiser" narrative is based. It's just a personal paper written by Andre Perry. It was not published or peer reviewed independent research. The false summary of this paper is that most black owned homes are "appraised" for less than white owned homes by an average of $46,000 each. Appraisers and appraisals have allegedly "devalued," "stolen money" from black homeowners which is totally false.

This data was based on AVMs and not valuations by appraisers. There were no appraisers involved in the research yet people are stating this proves appraisers are racist. On top of this the data came from failed inaccurate Zillow. Everyone knows the "a" in "Zillow" stands for accuracy. Zillow is probably the least accurate AVM out there. The data actually just shows that people with less money buy and own homes which cost and are worth less than people with more money. They buy what they can afford. They never adjusted for home location or income, net worth of homeowner in the data. Research has shown that whites make and have more money than black people, POC. Income equality is the real issue which must be solved not appraisers and home valuations. Whites also buy more expensive cars. Did appraisers and Kelly Blue Book's online AVM "steal" money from cars owned by POC? No. They buy less expensive cars to begin with.

Today's political climate has clearly changed. "The country is in a time of racial reckoning, heightened by a summer of protests against systemic racism and police brutality following the death of George Floyd in police custody." Floyd's death "sparked the largest racial justice protests in the United States since the Civil Rights Movement." "According to data from various sources, the Black Lives Matter movement is now the largest movement in US history." While racism exists and must be banished from our nation the pendulum has now swung to the extreme side. In this new light anything and everything is automatically "racist" today before even looking at the facts. Some have even been weaponizing race and other issues for their own agenda. 

The other misleading information about alleged "racist appraisers" comes from false media articles. One major one which finally made it to the courts is Austin v Miller. In this widely publicized media article and lawsuit the Plaintiffs argue that using similar homes which have sold in the same neighborhood as their home to value their home is "racist" and "biased." Austins wanted the appraiser to use comps "in the whiter areas" over a mile away instead of the "black area." These are exact quotes from the lawsuit linked above. Per law and the appraisal itself values are based on similar sales in the same neighborhood. The appraiser was not biased. 

Here are a couple of other false and misleading case, Carlette Duffy in Indianapolis, Indiana and Cora Robinson in Oakland, California. Based on my research the second appraisals were incorrect and higher than market value. They used comps from superior areas much farther away from the subject. 

Every appraisal value you don't like is not the result of a racist appraiser intentionally low balling you because of your race, color, ethnicity... Full inspection appraisals are not inherently racist or biased. AVMs are not racist but they are biased against any home other than an average home. Median and average home sold prices are built into the AVM formula, the algorithm. 

Racism is very real. Some people are absolutely racist and express that in their behavior. We all must fight racism. Wasting time on a non-racist issues takes away from real issues of racism and bias. Using the false "racist biased appraiser" narrative to promote AVMs, hybrids to make money at the expense of other people is wrong. 

I read the below article published the day after I wrote this article. People are noticing the anti-appraiser agenda. Jeremy Bagott of Appraiser Blogs, Certified General Real Estate Appraiser at Bender Rosenthal Inc., former newspaper man. 

https://appraisersblogs.com/anti-appraiser-agenda-follow-the-money

References

Ref 1 Corelogic, "AVMs assume all properties are in similar average market value.condition. They cannot adjust values down for disrepair or damage. Similarly, they cannot adjust values up for good upkeep or cosmetic upgrades, such as new carpet or paint. The AVM has no knowledge of the condition of a particular property."

 https://www.corelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/downloadable-docs/about-automated-valuation-models.pdf

Mary Cummins of Cummins Real Estate is a certified residential licensed appraiser in Los Angeles, California. Mary Cummins is licensed by the California Bureau of Real Estate appraisers and has over 35 years of experience.


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